Businesses saying keep the rowdy children at home.

[Desdichado]

Because you are allowing in these kids but not these kids

C'mon, Crothian, it's not discrimination to not allow disruptive "customers" into your place of business. Surely you didn't think that was illegal?

Are you trolling?

EDIT: See BG's post. Maybe it's the region I grew up in, but yeah, disruptive people were thrown out of stores pretty regularly. Otherwise, you're discriminating against the non-disruptive customers.

 

[BiggusGeekus]

From my experience though those people are allowed in places.

True. But if they act up, they're expected to leave.

We have different standards for kids. I don't think anyone expects a toddler to remain sedate for an extended period of time. It isn't a waiter's job to discipline my kid, it's my job and I should take that as a responsibility.

The policy isn't really against the kids, it's against the parents. No kid is going to want to go into a hip coffehouse or swanky restaurant. The rule is really against the parents and it's the same rule that applies to obnoxious and loud people.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Now can we have the 'no kid' theater, please?

I would pay an extra dollar for that.

 

[kenobi65]

Now can we have the 'no kid' theater, please?

No kidding. What I can't believe is the *little* kids that I see dragged along to violent movies...I'm talking about 3- and 4-year-olds at movies like Lord of the Rings, Revenge of the Sith, the Matrix, etc. When I went to see RotS, there were a whole bunch of little kids there...and, at the end, there was a lot of little kids crying, and undoubtedly going to have nightmares. (Though, at least, they'll have a healthy fear / respect for lava.)

I swear, there are too many parents out there who just don't think.

 

[Crothian]

C'mon, Crothian, it's not discrimination to not allow disruptive "customers" into your place of business. Surely you didn't think that was illegal?

Who's not allowing disruptive people in their places? You have people on cell phones talking loud, some places you have drunks, you have guys hanging around hitting on people....

Disruptive people are allowed in businesses all the time.

 

[WayneLigon]

From my experience though those people are allowed in places.

Only by businesses who either don't want to bother with it, or employees who don't care or don't want to get involved. Most businesses have the right to refuse service to whomever they want as long as race or gender is not involved. "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" is a perfect example of this. I don't want to see someone's hairy back or smell their stinking feet when I sit down to eat, so there's no reason I should have to put up with their screaming misbehaving kids either.

I'm not talking about the occassional raised voice, but kids that play in the aisles by running and acting like they are on a playground, or a kid having a full-blown screaming temper tantrum. Usually they'll be dealt with by being taken to the bathroom and paddled or maybe a quick couple of pops at the table - really young kids usually just get taken outside for the duration since there is no shutting them up. But for every four that do that, there will be the one set of parents that act as if nothing at all unusual is happening and continue to dine or talk with their friends as normal while their kid screams or throws things or runs around with a toy, or whatever.

I have seen businesses, rarely, ask someone to leave. Our theater has done that at least a couple of times with roudy theater-hoppers and that has won them my undying loyalty.

 

[Crothian]

Otherwise, you're discriminating against the non-disruptive customers.

How, they are being allowed in.

 

[kenobi65]

Who's not allowing disruptive people in their places? You have people on cell phones talking loud, some places you have drunks, you have guys hanging around hitting on people....

Disruptive people are allowed in businesses all the time.

That just means that the management of said businesses aren't doing anything about it. Businesses *do* have the right to refuse service to people. I've seen loud drunks asked to leave restaurants and ballparks, people asked to take their cell phones out of the theater, etc. Unfortunately, it just doesn't happen frequently enough.

Society's just completely lost its spine about enforcing any kind of social contract regarding rude behavior.

 

[Crothian]

That just means that the management of said businesses aren't doing anything about it. Businesses *do* have the right to refuse service to people. I've seen loud drunks asked to leave restaurants and ballparks, people asked to take their cell phones out of the theater, etc. Unfortunately, it just doesn't happen frequently enough.

Society's just completely lost its spine about enforcing any kind of social contract regarding rude behavior.

Exactly, so now you have mothers and kids being picked on becasue this guy feels he can bully them. But the big bad drunks people don't do much about.

I'm not saying its a bad rule, I'm saying that as long as it is not being enforced equaly it is discrimination.

 

[kenobi65]

Exactly, so now you have mothers and kids being picked on becasue this guy feels he can bully them. But the big bad drunks people don't do much about.

I bet you a dollar that the cafe owner in the article would throw a loud drunk out, too.