Call to the Four Lands - OCC

[Neurotic]

Don't question it. Polar caps are regrowing...not! And global warming is just a title, there will be places where local climate will change for colder, but the essence is that it is changing. Norther europe may experience new ice age that will offset global warming if gulf stream shuts down completely (it's just slowed now) because it is warming northern shores...it is stops, cold water and wind from north pole will hit and drop temperatures.

Polar caps get more snow then before, that doesn't make them regrow since there is by a third less ice over winter and it lasts almost a month less then before.

But I didn't intend to start climate discussion war, I understand that americans are mostly in denial since most of the blame is on them and western europe. Hell, even china plans on reducing it's emissions (altough not enough )...i

 

[Lou]

Too bad most of the data you cite is out of a discredited research group in UK. The global trend for temperature for the last 10 years is DOWN.

 

[Scott DeWar]

But I didn't intend to start climate discussion war

hmmm. it might be best to find another subject to discuss, then, in the interest of keeping things civil. If I hadn't brought up the subject of the snow in the first place this could have never been brought up, so I accept full responsibility for where this has drifted to.

 

[Leif]

hmmm. it might be best to find another subject to discuss, then, in the interest of keeping things civil. If I hadn't brought up the subject of the snow in the first place this could have never been brought up, so I accept full responsibility for where this has drifted to.

Somehow, I KNEW it was all your fault, DeWar!

What's the old saying -- "When in doubt, blame DeWar"?

 

[Scott DeWar]

Darn, you saw this post. I hoped you would have missed this one. caught red handed!

 

[Neurotic]

Very well, it really wasn't my intention. It's believe or don't believe as you see fit.

And the organisation in question is discreditted only in media, they have to inflate everything. There are text taken out of context altough there is FOR SURE some questionable corespondence.

OK, OK, dropping the subject.

It seems we'll have snow again this week. Temperatures are falling and clouds gather...

 

[Leif]

It really snows in Croatia?? Somehow, I thought the weather there was always balmy and pleasant, never got above 78 degrees F or below 64 degrees F. Ow, well, live and learn, I guess.

Ooops, sorry, we were supposed to change the subject, weren't we? Oh well....

 

[Neurotic]

Croatia has it all, we have Adriatic sea that is cut off by mountain range from more continental climate of middle croatia and eastern one has vast low areas of southern range of Panonic sea (this is not really sea, it dried up few thousand years ago, now it's fertile soil)

However, I personally remember the weather quite different and less extreme when I was a child and teen with temperatures and seasons in predictable patterns. Now there is nothing like that. No politics, science or whatever will make me believe there is no change. I think we can all agree to that. Whether it's human caused or not may be in dispute...

Sorry, it's sore subject for me since we're small country that cannot change international politics and we see bad decisions all over European union

I WILL STOP NOW! No offense everyone.

 

[Scott DeWar]

I am not offended by you, but just for the fun of it I may hold a grudge against Leif. please tell me more of your country. I know a little about farming. what is farmed in the dried up Panonic sea? is it all flatland? or are there hills to grow grapes?

 

[Rhun]

I think we're going to get to a high of about 25F today (-4C). It has been chilly this month, to say the least.