Calm Emotions

[sdt]

The Calm Emotions spell has the text "Any aggressive action against or damage dealt to a calmed creature immediately breaks the spell on all calmed creatures." Does this mean that the spell is broken if the caster takes agressive action against the creatures or if anyone takes agressive actions against the creatures?

 

[Piratecat]

Anyone.

 

[XO]

Including a dart thrown at the Calmed (presumably by his own allies) to pull him out from under the spell.

 

[Darklone]

I prefer unarmed strikes.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Wow, I'd never realised just how useless this spell is! Considering it only supresses the effects it does and doesn't dispel them and the ease with which it can be cancelled a caster would have to be mental to choose this one (unless a bard wanted to calm a rowdy crowd just before going on for a performance or something!)

 

[just__al]

Wow, I'd never realised just how useless this spell is! Considering it only supresses the effects it does and doesn't dispel them and the ease with which it can be cancelled a caster would have to be mental to choose this one (unless a bard wanted to calm a rowdy crowd just before going on for a performance or something!)

It still ends a rage, does it not? At the right time, that could KILL a barbarian. Also it could keep a frenzied berzerker from decimating party members after a fight.

 

[Lodow MoBo]

I would not call this spell useless.

Situation A large group of enemies say 18
The cleric casts calm emotions on say six of them. Mantains that control for 2 rounds. Instead of eighteen the party deals with 12, which can and does effect those encounters. I don't know about your encounters but ours rarely last more than five to ten rounds. Calm person is an effective but limited 2nd level mass hold person.

 

[Plane Sailing]

It still ends a rage, does it not? At the right time, that could KILL a barbarian. Also it could keep a frenzied berzerker from decimating party members after a fight.

No, it expressley suppresses it, and if *anyone* takes an aggressive action against *any* of the calmed creatures it is broken for all of them... and the rage continues.

 

[Plane Sailing]

I would not call this spell useless.

Situation A large group of enemies say 18
The cleric casts calm emotions on say six of them. Mantains that control for 2 rounds. Instead of eighteen the party deals with 12, which can and does effect those encounters. I don't know about your encounters but ours rarely last more than five to ten rounds. Calm person is an effective but limited 2nd level mass hold person.

Situation A rd 2 - one of the 12 remaing bad guys aggressively pushes one of the calmed friends. Pop, calm emotions is dismissed on *all* of them.

If it dispelled conditions instead of supressing them, it might be worth it.

If it could only be cancelled on individuals on a one-by-one basis instead of being dismissed on all of them at once it might be worth.

Lacking both these things there *only* time I could see it being of value is if a bard was able to use it to calm an entire group prior to fascinating them by singing or something like that.

 

[just__al]

No, it expressley suppresses it, and if *anyone* takes an aggressive action against *any* of the calmed creatures it is broken for all of them... and the rage continues.

A surpressed rage would supress the rage bonuses which could be deadly for a damaged barbarian when she looses her con. Or am I missing something.