Can vampirism be reversed?

[erian_7]

Shouldn't be a problem, as resurrection states (from the SRD):

"You can resurrect...someone who has been turned into an undead creature and then destroyed....undead creatures can’t be resurrected."

From reading that, it sounds to me like casting resurrection on a destroyed undead "cures" that creature. If it did not remove the "undeath" then resurrection wouldn't work since "undead creatures can’t be resurrected." With the requirement that the creature cannot have been dead longer than 10 years per caster level, the cleric should have no problem.

Edit: I do like the Vampiric bloodline angle as a lingering aftereffect. Might have to use that...

 

[Thanee]

Oh, and about using the heart of the original vampire.

It probably makes sense to just use the one that created the vampire you want to get back to living, because otherwise, it would only really make sense to use the original vampire and only god knows who that might be.

Would just seem a bit unreasonable to use the vampire two steps ahead and not one a dozen or even hundred steps ahead at the top of the pyramid. Like... uhm... "dracula"... the original vampire!

So, I'd try something related to the vampire that spawned this vampire. As I understand, that one has already been destroyed, so it would be best to have to find out who it was during its lifetime and then have to find something from that life. This would symbolize the life of the deathgiver turning the kiss of death away during a resurrection, thereby reversing the process.

At least it would make some sense to me that way.

Bye
Thanee

 

[der_kluge]

Vampires can have thrawls up to a number based on the vampire's hit dice. If the vampire converts more living creatures than he is able to control, they become autonomous, and are not under the influence of that vampire.

So, it would make sense that the master vampire would still maintain some control and would have to be destroyed prior to a resurrection, otherwise, it still might be able to maintain some kind of grasp over the subject.

That would be fun.

 

[Thanee]

Yeah, that could work... going from that master-slave connection and using the highest member in that chain.

Bye
Thanee

 

[CalrinAlshaw]

First off, you cannot ressurrect someone who's soul is trapped in an undead body..(vampires, liches, and ghosts for example). You have to "kill" the undead body to release the soul, THEN you must attempt a ressurrection.

Note: Wish is not as powerful as True Ressurrection in the case of bringing back the dead. Wish can do 2 things, recover a corpse/body, or bring corpse/body to life, one at a time. True Ressurrection is more powerful in this sense.

Of course, a DM can rule otherwise, it's their game after all.

Calrin Alshaw

 

[the Jester]

I'd allow a rez. By the RAW, it seems viable.

 

[Thanee]

If you read the second post somewhere in the middle, that is not what he is looking for.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Dark Jezter]

Bart: So finally, we're all in agreement about what's going on with the adults. Milhouse?
Milhouse: Ahem. OK, here's what we've got: the Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people...
Bart: Thank you.
Milhouse: ...Under the supervision of the reverse vampires, are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. We're through the looking glass, here, people...

 

[Agemegos]

In theory, there doesn't seem to be anything rules-wise that would prevent someone from decimating a vampire in this fashion

Decimating a vampire? Selecting one tenth of a vampire by lot and then killling it? Reducing a vampire drastically in number? Destroying a large part of the vampire?

There is nothing in the rules to prevent a thirteenth-level cleric from rescuing someone from vampirism like this. Nor is there meant to be. This is a precious and hard-won ability of the 13th-level cleric, and I think that you would be taking a grave step to rule-zero it out of your campaign.

 

[Jolly Giant]

Under the definition of the undead creature type in MM, it says that an undead can't be '"raised or resurrected", but that "True Resurrection", "Wish or "Miracle" can return the undead to life. Well, at least it said so in the 3.0 MM, I havn't looked it up in the 3.5 MM.

I actually had a slain vampire PC brought back to life via "True Ressurection" in my campaign, after we had studied the rules on the subject pretty thoroughly.