Character Level Adjustment for a PseudoDragon?

[Utrecht]

All,

In a game that I am in one of the characters is playing a pseudodragon - The DM gave it to him as a Level Adjustment of 0.

I am thinking that it is much more - but have been unable to locate this info. So any ideas what it should actually be?

Thanks in Advance

 

[Wolf72]

ach! you could try the issue of dragon with all the ECL's ... and then drop it by a few.

I'd look it up ... but my *wolf jumps for joy* cable modem has been down all week and won't be looked at until friday *wolf jumps for more joy* ... at least school's is working *wolf jumps for even more joy ... really this time, summer session for my class is about 7 hours on M/W and 3.5 on T*

(sorry had to rant a little!)

 

[Wolf72]

whoa! my internet is online? ...

anyway according to Dragon 293 a pseudodragon is ECL ... is .... is ...

well okay, pseudo is not listed! (or I can't find it)

they have wrymling dragons at +8 ECL ... you could go from there ... bring it down to 4 or 5?

 

[RogueJK]

According to Soldarin's ECL Calculator, a Pseudodragon is ECL +6.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Considering the benefits of flight, see invisible, SR, poison use and small size... I would go for at least ECL5, probably more. I can't imagine what that DM was thinking when he said ECL +0!!!

(OK, limitations include no hands and no voice, so he won't be much of a spellcaster - but he could be a kick-bottom rogue with horrific sneak attacks)

 

[Utrecht]

Yeah, I looked at Dragon as well and came up blank as well....

Here is the ironic thing about it. The DM has allowed him to use Wizard and Cleric spells - stating that he can use the stubby arms for the somantic components....... Verbal I have no idea how they are getting around this one.........

But thanks guys, you were confirming what I was suspecting.

 

[GenLang]

In Enemies & Allies, there's Wallach the psuedodragon. While I know that CR does not always directly lead to ECLs, a 10th level human fighter NPC is CR10 and a 12th level elf sorcerer is CR 12... and Wallach, the 12th level sorcerer psuedodragon is CR13.

Take as you will

 

[Plane Sailing]

Take as you will

Noting the smiley, I'd not read anything into that CR evaluation - it has been mentioned by the designers on numerous occasions that CR is a useless indicator of ECL - because abilities which are helpful to a one-off foe could be game-destroying if easily available to a PC who can use them in encounter after encounter after encounter. I think some of the pseudodragons abilities would fit into that category

Cheers