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D&D 5E Check Out Wild Beyond the Witchlight's Back Cover & Text

Wild Beyond the Witchlight now has a back cover, complete with product text! The adventure is for levels 1-8, and features a poster map.

Something Wicked This Way Comes

Once every eight years the fantastic Witchlight Carnival touches down on your world, bringing joy to one settlement after the next. It's owners, Mister Witch and Mister Light, know how to put on a good show. But there's more to this magical extravaganza than meets the eye!

The carnival is a gateway to a fantastic Feywild domain unlike anything found on the Material Plane. Time has not been kind to this realm, however, and the dark days lie ahead unless someone can thwart the dastardly schemes of the Hourglass Coven.

The Wild Beyond the Witchlight takes adventureres from the Witchlight Carnival to Prismeer, a Feywild domain of delight. This book comes with a poster map that shows the carnival on one side and the Prismeer on the other.


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Russ Morrissey

Russ Morrissey

Paragon Lost

Terminally Lost
lol this looks awful!

But looks like they're really leaning into the research showing that most people don't really play past level 7 or 8...which always seemed a little depressing to me.
Yeah, they really really need to show us what they think the game should look like and play like at higher levels. I'd love to see it from them. If there are issues than they need to work on a book that would correct these issues at the higher levels in my opinion.
 

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Marcelus14

Explorer
Woke up this morning and thought I gives zero cares about this adventure. Then I thought of Isolde’s carnival in Ravenloft and went ok maybe 1/10 cares. Then I saw this article, read “domains of delight” and levels 1-8 and am now firmly convinced this is part one of a two part adventure with the second being ravenloft centric and I am now at 5/10 cares, with a large jump to 10/10 if I am correct.
 



Feywild domain makes it sound like a crossover adventure in Ravenloft. A domain from the Feywild
Know that in 4e there were fey demesne, where a powerful fey rules. But these were small kingdoms in the larger reflection of the Feywild

Odd that they're finally going to the feywild and making it such a small area rather than giving you a larger tour of the Feywild so you can make your own Feywild adventures
But Level 1-8 makes it sound like a lot of the book is going to be other content rather than adventure
And focusing on a smaller Feywild domain that isn't a reflection of Cormyr makes it easier to move into another setting
 



Parmandur

Legend
Yeah, they really really need to show us what they think the game should look like and play like at higher levels. I'd love to see it from them. If there are issues than they need to work on a book that would correct these issues at the higher levels in my opinion.
They put out Dungeon of the Mad Mage years ago now. Based on what they've said, there is not much of a market for high level material, not just because most people only play up to mid-level, but most people who do play high level are DIYers who don't necessarily buy books (per Perkins).
 

Parmandur

Legend
Feywild domain makes it sound like a crossover adventure in Ravenloft. A domain from the Feywild
Know that in 4e there were fey demesne, where a powerful fey rules. But these were small kingdoms in the larger reflection of the Feywild

Odd that they're finally going to the feywild and making it such a small area rather than giving you a larger tour of the Feywild so you can make your own Feywild adventures
But Level 1-8 makes it sound like a lot of the book is going to be other content rather than adventure
And focusing on a smaller Feywild domain that isn't a reflection of Cormyr makes it easier to move into another setting
This carnival is a specific crossover with Van Richten’s Guide, where a Fey Carnival run by two Shadar-Kai Elves is mentioned.

This looks like Perkims trying to make a Fairy Curse of Strahd, doing for Fairie what Ravemloft did for Universal and Hammer monsters.
 

overgeeked

B/X Known World
"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes." is from Shakespeare's MacBeth. Bradbury was making a literary reference. The estate would be silly to say that nobody else can make that reference.
Lawyers regularly sue for less.
 

Davies

Adventurer
However, I have a hard time imagining that the realms of archfey such as the Prince of Frost or the Bramble Queen could be referred to as "delightful".
Consider that the being who's most supposed to dread one of the domains of dread is the being imprisoned at its core, then reconsider how the archfey who resides in these places regards them.
 


Paragon Lost

Terminally Lost
They put out Dungeon of the Mad Mage years ago now. Based on what they've said, there is not much of a market for high level material, not just because most people only play up to mid-level, but most people who do play high level are DIYers who don't necessarily buy books (per Perkins).
One densely packed 5-20 level dungeon 18 or so months ago, isn't really a good barometer in my opinion. It's basically our only high level dungeon in seven years.

Also the amount of levels its made to cover limits it in my opinion, versus doing a more focused on say 17-20th or 15-18th. I don't think they know for sure and it's all speculative. Also you have to develop a market for it and promoted it.

Folks are DIY-ing it because there isn't much out there. That's always the way it's been dating back to my first experiences with DnD in 78'.(shrugs) Personally I've always taken any adventure module and used it for a baseline and then did my own thing with it, adding more, subtracting things that didn't work etc.

It would just be good to see how they deal with and design scenarios for dungeons of a high level and if needed corrected or added mechanics to support such play.
 

jeremypowell

Adventurer
"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes." is from Shakespeare's MacBeth. Bradbury was making a literary reference. The estate would be silly to say that nobody else can make that reference.
I dont' think that's true—under US law, anyway.

I'm not a lawyer, but I have had to study copyright and IP law as part of my job, and as understand it, the Bradbury estate wouldn't have to claim ownership over the phrase. They would only have to claim that the use of the phrase is meant to increase WotC's profit (it's advertising copy) by way of association with Bradbury's work (this is self-evident) and had the potential to mislead consumers into believing the new book is a derivative work of the Bradbury one.

Think of it this way: I could make a movie about something with no relation to Bradbury's story and call it "Something Wicked This Way Comes"; no problem. Or I could make a movie about a spooky carnival, inspired by Bradbury's story but not so closely as to be a derivative work, and call it almost anything else, but I couldn't call it "Something Wicked This Way Comes"—nor could I use that phrase as the movie poster tagline.
 


Marandahir

Crown-Forester
I dont' think that's true—under US law, anyway.

I'm not a lawyer, but I have had to study copyright and IP law as part of my job, and as understand it, the Bradbury estate wouldn't have to claim ownership over the phrase. They would only have to claim that the use of the phrase is meant to increase WotC's profit (it's advertising copy) by way of association with Bradbury's work (this is self-evident) and had the potential to mislead consumers into believing the new book is a derivative work of the Bradbury one.

Think of it this way: I could make a movie about something with no relation to Bradbury's story and call it "Something Wicked This Way Comes"; no problem. Or I could make a movie about a spooky carnival, inspired by Bradbury's story but not so closely as to be a derivative work, and call it almost anything else, but I couldn't call it "Something Wicked This Way Comes"—nor could I use that phrase as the movie poster tagline.
They're not calling the adventure "Something Wicked This Way Comes," though. If they WERE, THEN Bradbury would have rights to sue over the copyright of using that as the name of a book. But they don't have legal protections against anyone using a phrase that Bradbury borrowed himself from Shakespeare. Just like Huxley couldn't sue them if their tag line was "O brave new world" - it's Shakespeare's line that Huxley used for his book title. Maybe if the Tag line was an ORIGINAL movie or book title then they couldn't use it, but because it's a line that's in the public domain, they can use it just fine.
 


Parmandur

Legend
One densely packed 5-20 level dungeon 18 or so months ago, isn't really a good barometer in my opinion. It's basically our only high level dungeon in seven years.

Also the amount of levels its made to cover limits it in my opinion, versus doing a more focused on say 17-20th or 15-18th. I don't think they know for sure and it's all speculative. Also you have to develop a market for it and promoted it.

Folks are DIY-ing it because there isn't much out there. That's always the way it's been dating back to my first experiences with DnD in 78'.(shrugs) Personally I've always taken any adventure module and used it for a baseline and then did my own thing with it, adding more, subtracting things that didn't work etc.

It would just be good to see how they deal with and design scenarios for dungeons of a high level and if needed corrected or added mechanics to support such play.
A number of assumptions in here, that stand contrary to what WotC has revealed about their intel.
 

Urriak Uruk

Debate fuels my Fire
Back on topic (why are y'all debating lawyers), I'm curious about these "Domains of Delight." It seems like an effort to make the Feywild and Shadowfel true symmetrical reflections of each other, so the Domains of Delight are reflections of the Domains of Dread.

Some questions I have;

  • Do these Feywild Domains have a counterpart of Darklords, like a Bright Lord? Would they be Archfey, or something else?
  • Are there Dark Powers (or Bright Powers) in the Feywild?
  • Are Domains of Delight the opposite of Dread Domains, being carefree dreams of folks where people can leave when they choose? Or are they also dangerous, and people are mostly trapped when they enter?
  • Are there as many Domains of Delight as there are Domains of Dread (meaning, a lot)?
  • Are the Domains of Delight reflections of Domains of Dread, meaning there is a Fewild version of Barovia? Or are they unique places on their own?

I suspect that Domains of Delight are not truly mirrors of the Domains of Dread (ie there isn't a Feywild version of Barovia) however I do think it is possible they mimic some characteristics, like drawing in regions of the Material Plane and turning them into Domains of Delight. Whether they have Bright Lords, or some other characteristics to make them unique, I'd be very curious to learn! Prismeer sounds like the first of perhaps many.
 

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