The UN needs to be abolished. It does more harm than good these days.
Right. Thanks for letting us know where you stand.
There is a difference, even if you don't want to see it.
Yeah... you don't know what I want. The internet is not an appropriate medium for telepathy, so you cannot read my, or anyone else's mind. Please stop speaking as if you can, as it's pretty rude.
So the rest of the world is on the hook for placing everyone who lives there?
It is in their own best interests to do so. Whether they are 'on the hook' is irrelevant - it is both the smart and the moral thing to do.
It's only the U.S. that gets a bad wrap.
No. I expect you only hear about the US getting criticized for it, because you're probably mostly listening to US news sources, that are not in the business of giving you a full account of world news. Confirmation bias
takes care of the rest.
We want to close our southern borders and we're racist jerks.
No. Say that you want to close the border because all those Mexicans are criminals and drug dealers and worthless layabouts, and you'll be a racist jerk. You'll also be kinda dumb, because the land border is just to darned long to close, and there's two bodies of water they could use, too. It simply isn't practical to really close the border.
Send them to Russia. Lots of room there and Putin is responsible for keeping Assad in power.
Siberia isn't yet particularly liveable real estate. And Putin isn't exactly what I'd call benign. And his economy isn't actually in all that great shape either. And, finally, in a geopolitical sense, I don't think it is a great idea to have him being better friends with the Muslim world than Europe and the US.
Really? You know for a fact that those were the only 12? We're really sure we have 100% of all those refugees with terrorist ties have been caught?
No, but then, I really don't have to. We have abotu 2.5 million people die each year in the USA. In the past decade, not a single one has died as a result of refugee-enacted terrorism. Not a single one.
I live in a free society. That means that perfect safety will always be denied me. Rather than seeking perfect safety, I seek "good enough" safety, and I prioritize, and pick my battles. The chance of folks dying at the hands of refugee terrorists is way, way down on the list of things that can kill us. So, I can instead turn to the far more likely causes of death to Americans.
Of for none of them being Syrian, that's really not relevant. The Syrian crisis is new
Not really - the crisis has been around for some time. Even with our long entrance procedures, we have 1500 Syrian refugees in the US now, iirc.
That only means that the ones we know of are less common that home grown ones.
And the ones we don't know of might not even be there! Without *evidence* you are jumping at shadows.
Tens of thousands? We have homeless people here that need to be taken care of. Once we solve our own issues, then we can worry about the issues of others. Every dollar spent on a refugee is better spent on the homeless veterans and people with mental issues that are out on our streets.
Common misdirection tactic: Say, "We cannot deal with C until we first deal with A and B!" and then quietly never actually deal with A and B. You can use this as a reason only when you have another thread in which you propose cogent and workable solutions to those problems, and can show that we will not have resources left for this. Until then, this is handwaving.
Plus, it isn't at all clear that you can safely afford to ignore the issue - it is central to the Middle East at this point, and the world economy is still tied to petroleum coming form there. You can't let it to go to heck in a handbasket, or the current homeless will be a drop in the bucket compared to what you'll have to deal with.
I'm really tired of the U.S. treating the people of other countries better than we treat our own.
I'm not the one stopping us - and neither are the other folks you are arguing with, I suspect. I am pretty sure we are quite ready to treat our own quite well.
