City of the Spider Queen (mini-campaign)

[Vertexx69]

Hence I won't be able to use ANY of my dragonborn abilities half the time, while I'm wild shaped. Then wings it is.

 

[HolyMan]

But from an RP perspective Vertexx maybe you shouldn't have the wings and then the wild shape becomes useful. (you can fly)

A dragon with no wings or did you have them and lose them? Is your parent dragon some wingless one?

One of the reasons I allowed you in as a 6th is the post of you running around the underdark in dino form. Something I wish to read as we adventure.

HM

 

[perrinmiller]

HM;
Not arguingrhe equipment stuff, but it is turning me off on the whole duskblade idea.

Can you look back at the other issue I brought up about buying back the +1 ECL? If I change to fighter based build then the big shield can be a tower shield.

 

[HolyMan]

Why not a LvL 9 Duskblade/Lvl 1 Dragon Disciple(DD)??

You would have no arcane failure 3rd lvl spells and could advance the whole game as a DD and RP the changes to your character as his dragon blood gets stronger. Would love for you not to have dragon breath to start the game and get it during.

I did answer the question and you may not buy back ECLs

HM

 

[perrinmiller]

I must have missed the answer in the walls of text back and forth regarding the other builds. Sorry. Did you answer about Agile Reposte?

As for varying the build, I will think about it. But considering I have had a total one (yes, only one) character of all my games that ever advanced a level... But considering I have never played with any of you guys before maybe this game will be different.

 

[Vertexx69]

But from an RP perspective Vertexx maybe you shouldn't have the wings and then the wild shape becomes useful. (you can fly)

A dragon with no wings or did you have them and lose them? Is your parent dragon some wingless one?

One of the reasons I allowed you in as a 6th is the post of you running around the underdark in dino form. Something I wish to read as we adventure.

Oh I fully intend on running through the underdark in dino form, with slash at my side every step of the way . Dragonborn don't have a dragon parent. They are called by Bahamut to fight the forces of evil dragons, undergoing a ritual to become dragonborn. Having the wings only when not in wild shape gives a way to scout large caverns quickly from the dark shadows of the ceiling, and a reason to drop out of wild shape for a being that much prefers dashing through the hills in dino-form amongst a pack of like individuals. He considers his normal form to be the dream now that he can spend whole days in his "True" form.

 

[jkason]

ETA: Okay, I guess it wasn't answered. heh.

On the wildshape question, I believe the difference is official Wizards errata. They changed wildshape to be as alternate form instead of as polymorph after the PHB was published, and that's reflected in the SRD.

 

[Myth and Legend]

Yes, the errata is somewhere on the Wizard's site. So my respect to Holy Man as a game master, but the latest errata is always > whatever previous prints of the book. Same with the 3.0 and 3.5 versions of the same prestige class.

It should be like so:

Hosuerules
Official errata
Official books for 3.5
Official books for 3.0
Third party books for 3.5
Turnips
vacant slot
4E

 

[HolyMan]

Sorry gang I have to play with the rules I have (or have had). I can't go finding all the errata figured out from the past 10yrs of 3rd edition.

I have no alternate form spell or have ever heard of it till now. But wild shape is an old ability you shouldn't rule and should play in the spirit of how it was designed... meaning.

You wild shape into another animal gaining all it's abilities and keep your own mind (INT, WIS, CHA). You are not a hybird of any sort. You are either a bird, a wolf, or whatever from a MM. That is what it was designed to do it was later they added special magic items to keep your AC and stuff that (while allowable) lost much of the spirit of the ability.

Going to play it as best I can, with what I have and what I have done in the past as DM/player. Please bare with me on some things.

HM

 

[jkason]

Sorry gang I have to play with the rules I have (or have had). I can't go finding all the errata figured out from the past 10yrs of 3rd edition.

I don't know if it helps, but I generally use an online, hyperlinked SRD: The Hypertext d20 SRD (v3.5 d20 System Reference Document) :: d20srd.org

For myself, I find it's usually faster to find what I'm looking for than having to flip through a book to do cross-referencing (as an example, per what's been discussed, the Druid entry has a handy link in the class progression table that goes straight to Wild Shape, which in turn links to the alternate form ability in the text at the exact point where the text references it). It has the benefit of already including things like errata and some other open game content in addition to material from the player's handbook, DMG, and Monster Manuals. And, since I can only really game PBP, I'm online anyway most of the time when I need rules.