Cleric PrC

[Thanee]

Is there any decent cleric PrC?

Contemplative looks like it is impossible (or at least completely random) to fulfill the prerequisites (does buying a scroll of gate count?). Harper Priest the same. Both are quite nice, tho.

Divine Disciple looks promising (can that New Domain be a Prestige Domain? Or just a regular one?).

Hierophant is probably the best one out there, but only for laaater, and will be taken into consideration (Divine Reach, Spell-Like Ability and Spell Power, Spell Power, Spell Power... Wow!).

The only decent 10-level one I found (which also fits) would be the Mystic Wanderer. Got some really nice stuff there (I like the familiar ) and also seems to fit the concept quite nicely.

Anything else? Should have full spell progression and low feat requirements (Mystic Wanderer is at the edge with the Iron Will requirement) and should fit to an adventuring elven cleric of Labelas Enoreth concept-wise.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Chun-tzu]

I like the Harper Priest and Divine Disciple. Both very appropriate (but whether or not Harper membership would really fit depends on your character and the campaign). Contemplative also works, and is a very nice 10-level Cleric PrC.

I don't see how the Mystic Wanderer fits a Cleric of Labelas, whose portfolio includes "time, longevity, the moment of choice, history." Loremaster is a much better fit for Labelas, and in his Faiths and Pantheons write-up, it says that his worshippers include Loremasters and Divine Disciples (also Bards, Elves, scholars, teachers). But I assume you're making the Elven Cleric archer (best meta reason for elven cleric of Labelas), and both Loremaster and Mystic Wanderer get the Wizard's BAB progression. Hierophant also has a very high price, since it gets no further spell progression (so I wouldn't take more than 2 levels in it).

Edit - About the Divine Disciple, whether or not you can take a Prestige Domain is a grey area, since they wouldn't refer to a Defenders of the Faith concept in another book. I'd definitely allow it, but it's up to your DM.

 

[Wizardry]

Are you asking from a roleplaying standpoint, a metagaming standpoint, or a little of both? You should provide more detail about your character in either case. Just saying "adventuring Cleric of Labelas Enoreth" isn't very revealing.

 

[HellHound]

Here is one (Cleric-based Prestige Class) I posted up last week... (to a massive "no comment" from the community at large).

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27359

 

[0-hr]

I played a Mystic Wanderer/Contemplative for a while. I would recommend the Wanderer. I didn' find it worth it to go without armor, but the other abilities were fun (though Gem Magics require a lot of DM interpretation).

The best things about the Contemplative were the extra domains and the immunities. The SR and self-healing were far to weak to be of any use at that level. The domains can make up for that though (I took Madness, which was both interesting to RP, and rather powerful).

 

[Thanee]

Here's a breakdown of the character. Yes, she's an archer, and I'm quite aware of the power potential here, but the feat choices (archery feats, Extend/Persistant Spell) also fit perfectly to Labelas' domains.

Anyways...

Kitana
CG Moon Elf
Rogue 1 / Cleric of Labelas Enoreth 3
Elf domain, Time domain
S13 D19 C11 I15+1 W18 C14
Feats: Spellcasting Prodigy, Improved Initiative, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot
Next Feats: Extend Spell, Persistant Spell

About her character concept, I had something along the lines of Indiana Jones/Lara Croft in mind, an adventuring cleric looking for traces of history (hence the Rogue level(s)). She's not really a sage or philosopher (would have chosen the Knowledge domain then), that's why she's one of those clerics, that wander the realms searching for hidden facts of the past and possibly righting wrongs. That's also why I thought the Mystic Wanderer would fit.

I noticed today, that Loremaster is available for clerics as well, always thought of it as a Wizard PrC! But I guess the requirements will be too hard to fulfill.

About the Contemplative, how is the requirement (contact with deity or something like a Solar) even fulfillable, unless the DM just makes it possible for the sake of allowing access to the class? It's not like 10th level characters have contact to something as powerful as a deity or even a Solar often!

About the Hierophant, true, the absence of spell progression is quite a turn-off, especially when she will at least take another one or two Rogue levels.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Skaros]

Thanee! That is hilarious. (EDIT: because I have almost the same concept, not because you are being silly)

I'm playing a 7th level cleric of Labelas Enoreth right now. The concept was to play an elf that seeks to recover artifacts from older civilizations for the loremasters back home to study and draw history out of.

Exactly the image I had in mind was for him to lead mixed-race groups Indiana Jones style as historical objects are made known to him (through divinations (Divination spell rules), consultations with other members of his church, local bardic colleges, etc.

He's moon-elven, and the DM and I have established that he is considered very abnormal within the church of Labelas, which mostly consists of very academic priests. He even has a direct superior in the church that just about flat out hates him, as my character doesn't fit his notion of what a good cleric of Labelas should be.

I'm working on playing up the elven aspects of his personality. Time is on my side, and I'm willing to spend a great deal of time side-tracking on things that interest the shorter-lived party members as long as the general direction of the party fits into my long term goals (long term equals decades or centuries).

HOw do you like to play elves? My goal is to do something other than play a human with a dex bonus

-Skaros, player of Tel'lackhir

 

[Skaros]

double post

 

[Skaros]

More details:

Tel'lackhir

male moon-elven level 7 cleric of Labelas Enoreth

HP: 67, AC: 18 (+4 Dex, +4 Mithril shirt), Touch 14, BAB: +5
Stats: Str 13, Dex 19, Con 14, Int 14, Wis 18 (17 + 1 at 4th lvl), Cha 15
Saves: Fort +7, Ref +6, Will +9

Domains: Time (Improved Initiative), Elf (Point blank shot)
Feats: Rapid shot, extend spell, precise shot (I'll pick up persistent spell in 2 levels, when I'm high enough to use it for anything)
Skills: Concentration +12, Hide +14, Knowledge (religion) +7, listen +6, move silently +14, scry +7, search +4, spellcraft +12, spot +16

Attacks: +1 Flaming Mighty(+4) Composite Longbow +10 or +8/+8 (rapid shot) for 1d8 + 2 + 1d6 flame dmg.
MW Longsword +7 for 1d8+1 dmg.

Spells/Day: 6/5+1/4+1/3+1/2+1

Magic Items: (total cost = 18,300 GP)
boots of elvenkind (+10 move silently) - 2000 GP
cloak of elvenkind (+10 hide) - 2000 GP
mithril shirt (+4 AC, no armor check penalty) - 1100 GP
eyes of the eagle (+5 spot) - 1000 GP
quiver of ehlonna (holds 60 arrows and bow) - 1800 GP
rod of lesser extension (extend spell for free 3/day, lvl 3 spell or less only) - Tome and Blood - 5400 GP
+1 Flaming Mighty(+4) Composite Longbow - 2500 GP (plus free upgrade from the DM to give it the flaming quality)
bag of holding, type 1 (capacity 30 cubic feet, up to 250 pounds) - 2500 GP

Travel:
* Tel'lackhir is both old and wise (but not slow :->). When travelling alone he avoids combat altogether, travelling at a slow, leisurely pace to utilize his stealth abilities.
* In a group, he spends a good deal of time scouting ahead, particularly if the terrain lends itself to ambush, and always recommends hiding or taking the long way over unnecessary confrontations.

In hindsight, I wish I'd picked up beads of Karma instead of the rod of extension. As nice as it is to freely extend magic vestment, cat's grace, and bull's strength each morning, I could have accomplished nearly the same thing with bead of karma, AND I'd have greater magic weapons, etc, lasting 11 hours as well.

With the item selection I've chosen, he has characteristically elven items to enhance his stealth and armor enough to make him an excellent scout, and enable travelling alone.

Of course, when he gets wind walk in 2 levels, it won't matter that much about the overland travelling part.

Regards,

Skaros

 

[HeavyG]

About the Contemplative, how is the requirement (contact with deity or something like a Solar) even fulfillable, unless the DM just makes it possible for the sake of allowing access to the class? It's not like 10th level characters have contact to something as powerful as a deity or even a Solar often!

By the time you can take the Contemplative class, you can cast Commune and Plane Shift. If with those two, you aren't able to make contact with your deity or a powerful servant, then either :

1) You aren't trying hard enough.

or

2) The DM just doesn't want you to become a Contemplative.


Of course, it may be that the campaign you're in is a frantic thing where the characters never have time to go do their own thing for a few weeks. In that case, there's a whole bunch of prestige classes that should be unavailable.