cleric switching god

[Kae'Yoss]

(That said, I always stumbled over the god of "poetical justice"? Doesn't that clash with straight, doom-ish vengeance?)

No, I don't think so. Doom is doom, wheter you're just hanged or get hit by a gold bar so you "die a rich man".

 

[MoonZar]

Hello,

I would allow the character to change from god with the follow condition :

1) He loose instantly one level of cleric, because the two religion are so different that some of his learning is not accurate to his new idology.

2) He don't gain experience anymore and can't use spells and clerical abilities until he had been accepted in the church of tyr after a year or two of praying and learning.

3) We are in forgotten realm so the old church will probably retaliate against the priest as a traitor and this will probably very ugly...

4) This should not be easy to change god, mortal don't play with god, only the reverse is true... After all Tyr is Lawful, how can he accept someone who betray his god and church (latender) this why Tyr would ask big sacrifice and proof that he's fateful.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

1) He loose instantly one level of cleric, because the two religion are so different that some of his learning is not accurate to his new idology.

2) He don't gain experience anymore and can't use spells and clerical abilities until he had been accepted in the church of tyr after a year or two of praying and learning.

Ug.

Count me glad I don't play in your campaign!

 

[MoonZar]

Ug.

Count me glad I don't play in your campaign!

Well this just the point that you don't give up on your god so easly, and tyr he's a lawful god, i just don't think he will accept the priest so fast, after he betrayed latender...

After all in 2nd edition the book suggest that someone who change alignment loose experience points. Here a quote from the players handbook 2nd edition p 69 :

Changing the way a character behaves and think will cost him experience points and slow his advancement. Part of a character experience come from learning how his own behavior affect him and the world arround him.

From this point of view this obvious to me that if you change your religion, you change all your beleive and you should loose experience and have a slower advancement.

Anyway this only an opinion i known this very hard on the players but this still logicial according to me.

Another point about changing alignement and beleive :

DMG 2nd edition p29

... The instant a character voluntarily change alignment the experience point to gain the next level is doubled.

I think that changing god is the nearly the same as changing alignement because you change your believe...

 

[Thefifthglyph]

Is changing the domain of your choice from your deity is similar to the effects of changing gods? Since the domains only signified the deity's interests or values, does shifting your role would cause the deity's wrath?

 

[MoonZar]

Is changing the domain of your choice from your deity is similar to the effects of changing gods? Since the domains only signified the deity's interests or values, does shifting your role would cause the deity's wrath?

I think the answer will be different from one dm to another, personnaly i dont see why the deity will be angry, if you still follow him, this not a major issue according to me.

 

[Hypersmurf]

After all in 2nd edition...

Ahh.

Here a quote from the players handbook 2nd edition p 69 :

Ahh.

DMG 2nd edition p29

Ahh.

I note a common theme in here.

-Hyp.

 

[MoonZar]

As far as I know, Lathander is a good and loving god. I'd say he wouldn't do anything to the PC for leaving the faith. Good gods aren't into that sort of thing. The god might very well be sad to see the PC leave the flock of the faithful, but that's about it. As far as the clergy is concerned, sure, you might see some anger and resentment toward the PC coming from them. But even so, remember that these are good clerics. So they should probably, for the most part, hold any negative feelings about the PC in check.

Hello,

Well even good god are scary in Forgotten realms, this remind me in NeverWinter an official game of Wizard that maybe you had play, you meet a whole city who is damn and curse to the undead life by the will of Lathender, because the priest of lathender who was running the place commit an evil act. Even if lathender was good, he curse every innocent in the city just for one guy and created undead !! Waaaa !

 

[MoonZar]

Ahh.



Ahh.



Ahh.

I note a common theme in here.

-Hyp.

Well even if you don't think 2nd edition is a good refence, this still a reference who speak of the subject serioustly.

In 3rd edition they just say that you could change alignment in one week, so i could wake up a morning and go from LG to CE with no penalty in only one week, i don't agree...

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Alot of the 3ed stuff is left up to the DM to act out accordingly....

I'd say that the cleric would have to go on a quest for Tyr to prove his allegiance. He would lose spellcasting abilities until he successfully completes the quest. And then go back to the temple that gave him the quest to recieve his "holy orders" and become a Tyrran priest.

This is much less of a process that would probably have to occur if the PC had worshiped an evil deity before... Probably a more rigorous quest and test of his new faith... and request for atonement. Which may lead to further tests...