D&D 5E (2024) Collage of Dance Reveal

[Oofta]

For some reason when I think of college of dance bard I keep thinking about King Leonidas

 

[Tonguez]

To be real most people who get called "influencers" actually put in 70-150% as much work as you average "email job" worker. Sure, it's not 1960s manual labour or whatever, but relatively little is if you get to a certain portion of the economy. Saying it's "not a real job" when you're not saying the same to actors or musicians because you have a clearer idea of how much time/effort they put in is kinda silly.

Yeah, this. As she says in the video Ginny Di is a bard, a social entertainer who should be accorded the same respect of a screen actor or singer regardless of the medium she has chosen to utilise. Kudos to her for finding a way to monetise her cosplay and geek cred.
Anyway Patreon reports that she earns up to 14k per month from that platform. Not megabucks be respectable and fair compensation for the scripting, editing and production she does put in.

 

[DarkCrisis]

Yeah, this. As she says in the video Ginny Di is a bard, a social entertainer who should be accorded the same respect of a screen actor or singer regardless of the medium she has chosen to utilise. Kudos to her for finding a way to monetise her cosplay and geek cred.
Anyway Patreon reports that she earns up to 14k per month from that platform. Not megabucks be respectable and fair compensation for the scripting, editing and production she does put in.

Seems like fantasy money to me as I make less than a quarter of that a month. Though I do live in a poor red state as opposed to a wealthy state like Cali. Cost of living differences etc.

Like I said, congrats to her and those like her who found a way to make a buck streaming and I'm not saying they haven't earned their wealth, I just hate it when they compare it to a (and i know this is frowned upon but I can't think of another term) "real job". This applies to a lot of jobs out there IMO not just internet influencing.

I recall some rich person saying getting on stage and doing a 1 hour speech for money was like working all day. I have no respect for those people. Glad they found a way up and out. Good for them but they don't need to pretend that they have it just as hard as those working actual jobs.

Eat the rich and all that.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

14th level now has super evaion (You and an ally within 5ft get evasion)

I remember noting in my playtest feedback that it's ridiculous that a full caster got Evasion at lv6, a level earlier than Monks/Rogues whose thing that's supposed to be.

But this change is just the silly opposite of that. At lv14, like, people are going to be immune to so many things, what's a little Evasion doing there.

 

[MGibster]

Like I said, congrats to her and those like her who found a way to make a buck streaming and I'm not saying they haven't earned their wealth, I just hate it when they compare it to a (and i know this is frowned upon but I can't think of another term) "real job". This applies to a lot of jobs out there IMO not just internet influencing.

Where is this coming from? Is this something you've heard Ginny D express personally or are you projecting your own feelings onto her? I've certainly heard some YouTubers talk about the work that goes into making a decent video which might include research, writing a script, filming, editing, and trying to please the almighty algorithim, but I don't know if I've ever heard them speak with disdain about anyone else who has a "real" job. Personally I think it's pretty gutsy for some of these people to make it a full time job.

I recall some rich person saying getting on stage and doing a 1 hour speech for money was like working all day. I have no respect for those people. Glad they found a way up and out. Good for them but they don't need to pretend that they have it just as hard as those working actual jobs.

What does this have to do with Ginny D or most other people who make YouTube videos for a living?

Eat the rich and all that.

Is she even rich?

 

[DarkCrisis]

Where is this coming from? Is this something you've heard Ginny D express personally or are you projecting your own feelings onto her? I've certainly heard some YouTubers talk about the work that goes into making a decent video which might include research, writing a script, filming, editing, and trying to please the almighty algorithim, but I don't know if I've ever heard them speak with disdain about anyone else who has a "real" job. Personally I think it's pretty gutsy for some of these people to make it a full time job.


What does this have to do with Ginny D or most other people who make YouTube videos for a living?

Is she even rich?

Where is it coming from? Born and raised in poor red state and had my eyes opened to reality as I grew up and seen things out of my control get worse and worse.

But eh, don’t pay attention to my ranting. I’m just feeling my age and probably bitter about a thing or two. Just need to go wave a cane at some youths or something.

 

[Remathilis]

I remember noting in my playtest feedback that it's ridiculous that a full caster got Evasion at lv6, a level earlier than Monks/Rogues whose thing that's supposed to be.

But this change is just the silly opposite of that. At lv14, like, people are going to be immune to so many things, what's a little Evasion doing there.

I would have been great at level 10. But bard's lack a four subclass feature, so it is what it is.

Personally, I think the 3, 6, 10, 14 should have been the standard for all classes but that ship has sailed, come back, and sailed again.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

For some reason when I think of college of dance bard I keep thinking about King Leonidas

That's me as DM on the left, and any player who wants to play a dance bard on the right.

 

[CapnZapp]

That's me as DM on the left, and any player who wants to play a dance bard on the right.

Cool story, bro.

Remind me never to play in your game.

Not because I particularly need to play a dance bsrd, but because you clearly don't even try to hide your contempt for "others".

Cheers

 

[CapnZapp]

Like I said, congrats to her and those like her who found a way to make a buck streaming and I'm not saying they haven't earned their wealth, I just hate it when they compare it to a (and i know this is frowned upon but I can't think of another term) "real job". This applies to a lot of jobs out there IMO not just internet influencing.

Just a reminder for next time: you are totally saying you don't think Ginny has earned her wealth.

She's an entertainer. I see no reason to value her work lower than any other form of entertainment.

Remember, in entertainment you're always only as good as your last gig. As soon as she stops making an effort, the money hose gets turned off. Very very VERY few entertainers get to enjoy lasting financial stability.

What I'm saying is I see her income is highly uncertain and I wouldn't trade places with her for anything. But props to her for managing to make a living out of the incredibly niche area of tabletop roleplay adjacent content. It's hard work and she, per definition, deserves everything that's going her way.