Come again - you can't shoot bows in melee while in melee?

[irdeggman]

I don't think it's either bizarre nor far out there. It's certainly not what the D&D rules say, but I would also consider it rather difficult to shoot a bow, while in melee with the target.

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Thanee

How about a crossbow? Since that would be the next logical step to take.

 

[Thanee]

Almost the same. You just ain't standing there aiming with a bow or crossbow, while ducking and dodging the blows against yourself.

But as I said, while I consider this more realistic, it's certainly not how the D&D rules work.

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Thanee

 

[irdeggman]

Almost the same. You just ain't standing there aiming with a bow or crossbow, while ducking and dodging the blows against yourself.

But as I said, while I consider this more realistic, it's certainly not how the D&D rules work.

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Thanee

This would translate into an accuracy penalty (i.e., a penalty to hit). This is already incorporated into the -4 to shoot into melee (since you are in melee this penalty applies) and then while taking the moment to aim your foe sees an opening and gets to take advantage of it (i.e., the AoO).

Seems to capture the concept fairly well, given the abstractness of the combat rules as they are.

A -4 penalty is a 20% penalty since the basis is the d20 roll (all of those other modiferes are reflections of an individual's skill and natural ability but not something that is specific to the situation).

 

[Dingleberry]

and also there will not be enough momentum behind your shot to do any damage to him.

To paraphrase Bill Cosby: "Maybe an arrow does need a running start."

 

[Matafuego]

You're unlikely to have soft cover if you're in melee... and I'd disagree that the AoO can be a Sunder (the Sunder action lacks footnote 7 on the Table of Action Types).
-Hyp.

Are you sure?
Wow, thanks, always thought it was possible...

 

[WolverineJon]

That's a really bizzare ruling. Not enough momentum? Does that mean he is claming the arrow gains speed in midair?

Sounds like kind of a cool custom bow enchantment! "Arrows fired from this bow magically accelerate as they travel through the air, dealing an additional +1 in damage for every x in distance travelled before they strike their target."

 

[iwatt]

Sounds like kind of a cool custom bow enchantment! "Arrows fired from this bow magically accelerate as they travel through the air, dealing an additional +1 in damage for every x in distance travelled before they strike their target."

And then prepare for the fortcoming cheese of the deepwood sniper using this feat from 2000' away

 

[Nyaricus]

That's a really bizzare ruling. Not enough momentum? Does that mean he is claming the arrow gains speed in midair?

Yes, that is what he claimed. I said "ummm, wha...?"

Hyp, if you take Precise Shot, does the AoO get neagted as well, or if you are in melee, do you still draw an AoO?

Thanks.

 

[diaglo]

are you sure he isn't houseruling some kind of Concentration check. maybe he is setting the DC at 35 to use a bow in melee.

still that's messed up, d00d.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Yes, that is what he claimed. I said "ummm, wha...?"

DM of Nyaricus, let me introduce you to Newton's Laws. Now, please step away from the crack pipe.