Coming in May: Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes! [UPDATED!]

So they just gave the title and showed the cover mock-ups; no specific info till Monday?

 

[gyor]

I’m out of my mind. Just listened to the podcast, she was talking about art pieces, 100 or more, then he said more because there are 130 pages of monsters.

So no idea of exact monster count but 130 pages of monsters. But this was was before they were done and weren’t going to send it to the printer till the next week, so who knows for sure.

I think in practice it will be 80-100 monsters, when adusting for double page monsters. Also concider that they might now need to put as much info in some archfiend enentries if that info is covered in the blood war section.

 

[Li Shenron]

I’m out of my mind. Just listened to the podcast, she was talking about art pieces, 100 or more, then he said more because there are 130 pages of monsters.

So no idea of exact monster count but 130 pages of monsters. But this was was before they were done and weren’t going to send it to the printer till the next week, so who knows for sure.

Right. Better keep hopes a bit down, considering that from those "pages of monsters" we might have to deduct 20-30 pages of random monsters names in various languages...

 

[GarrettKP]

The Shadar-Kai (who are basically, pasty goth humans, aka BORING) , and the Shadowfell as a concept itself were from 4E, and neither was something I liked... nor the idea that elves/eladrin are from the Feywild (basically the faery legend First World that Pathfinder also uses). This blurb mentioning that elves were shapeshifters once leans heavily towards that origin again, and I frankly always felt that D&D does not need a separate faery world plane.

Shadar-Kai were introduced in 3e and were Fey. So not exactly a 4e concept (in 4e they were changed to Human).

 

[Elderbrain]

Re: "Playable Mind Flayers will never, ever be a thing in D&D"... weren't Mind Flayers a playable race in the 3.5 book Savage Species? Or is my memory playing tricks on me?

 

[Parmandur]

Right. Better keep hopes a bit down, considering that from those "pages of monsters" we might have to deduct 20-30 pages of random monsters names in various languages...

Well, it is true, they have stated there will be a number of random tables for players and DMs, because you literally cannot have enough random tables: but that is likely from the remaining page count, rather than in the bestiary.

 

[Elderbrain]

Re: "Playable Mind Flayers will never, ever be a thing in D&D"... didn't the 3.5 book Savage Species include rules for PC Flayers? I could swear it did, but my memory might be playing tricks with me!

Crud, double post...

 

[gyor]

Well, it is true, they have stated there will be a number of random tables for players and DMs, because you literally cannot have enough random tables: but that is likely from the remaining page count, rather than in the bestiary.

Li Shenron was poking fun at the pages and pages of filler names in the back of XGTE, it wasn't a serious belief that they will have pages and pages of monster names in the MTOF.

 

[Parmandur]

Li Shenron was poking fun at the pages and pages of filler names in the back of XGTE, it wasn't a serious belief that they will have pages and pages of monster names in the MTOF.

Yes, I know: but seriously, there will be a lot of tables in this book, too. They are popular, and in demand.

 

[Doc_Klueless]

Yeah, there are some people who poke fun at those tables... But I really love those tables and have gotten a lot of use out of them. So when he said "pages of random monsters names in various languages..," it actually piqued my interest! lol.

 

[Demetrios1453]

Honestly, we're arguing semantics here. 130 pages might not result in exactly 130 monsters, but very likely somewhere comfortably above 100.

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