TwoSix
Unserious gamer
Noble in theory, but revenge is so much sweeter in practice.I have to admit, I'm a bit sad to hear all thiscan't we just vote for what we like, and downvote what we think is least deserving of winning?
Noble in theory, but revenge is so much sweeter in practice.I have to admit, I'm a bit sad to hear all thiscan't we just vote for what we like, and downvote what we think is least deserving of winning?
It just doesn't feel like an interesting support class while playing it. You fire off your Bless or Shield of Faith or whatever and then you just waste you time doing pitiful damage for the rest of the fight while maintaining your Concentration. There's no real engagement in the fight, you might need to throw a healing words or something but that's about it.Little curious as to why you think this? The 5e cleric has more unique abilities than almost any other previous edition afaict (prolly not more than 4e because of how 4e was structured). Not that that guarantees non-boringness or anything, but...
Not a single option here is my favourite subclass.
Sadness abounds.
I'm trying to whittle down the Abjuration wizard, but your upvoting isn't helping anything!I’m actually finding it hard to vote, theres nothing really outsanding here and the 50 points isnt helping. I think I may just wait until a few more get whittled down…
Yeah, well Im not gonna vote for a couple of days - so go for it!I'm trying to whittle down the Abjuration wizard, but your upvoting isn't helping anything!
You could always concentrate on killing the Abjuration Wizard.Tempest Cleric is my favourite subclass on this list, but I see that it is doomed, so I am going to concentrate elsewhere.
Or the Ancients Paladin.You could always concentrate on killing the Abjuration Wizard.![]()
Nah. It's good.Or the Ancients Paladin.![]()
Is it though... is it???Nah. It's good.
You mean the Abjuration Wizard? Yeah, no idea why anyone would upvote Wizards.50 is definitely a bummer, but c'est la vie.
What I can't wrap my head round is with so many interesting choices abounding some folks are up-voting literally the most boring archetype in the game (that doesn't start with "C" and end with "hampion", anyway)
I'm glad I didn't go with 100 points each (I had seriously considered it.) But even with 50 starting points, the first elimination took less than 30 hours. On a major US holiday, no less.50 is definitely a bummer, but c'est la vie.
What I can't wrap my head round is with so many interesting choices abounding some folks are up-voting literally the most boring archetype in the game (that doesn't start with "C" and end with "hampion", anyway)
See, this list matches my expectations to a tee; some archetypes you hate, some you love, and snoozy lil Thief smack dab in the middle.Tempest Domain: because storm gods are best gods
School of Abjuration: the best offense is a good defense
Pact of the Fiend: more flavor and lore in its little finger than everything below combined
Oath of Ancients: the best "spell sword," the best "ranger," and the best "eldritch knight," rolled into one.
Thief: it's the best non-magic subclass so far. That's about all I can say about it, though.
Circle of the Shepherd: eh, kinda boring, but at least you get fun pets.
Divine Soul: so you want to play a cleric but you don't want to be the cleric? Weird flex but okay.
Gloom Stalker: you chose this over an actual rogue?
Battle Master: you could have played an Eldritch Knight but chose Extra Dice instead. Hooray?
Way of the Kensei: I mean, at least it's not YAFRMC (Yet Another Fighter/Rogue MultiClass).
Path of the Totem Warrior: it's not terrible, just feels really fiddly and watered-down.
College of Lore: If I were going to play a bard (I'm not), I wouldn't pick the magical librarian.
I think, with this larger pool of points, positive feelings will start to take on greater importance. With only 20 points, it takes 4-5 people deciding they dislike something for it to go from "doing really well" to "the new weakest link." And as soon as that weakness shows, dogpiles start. It happened to the Circle of Stars and the Circle of Wildfire, it happened to Hexblade, etc.See, this list matches my expectations to a tee; some archetypes you hate, some you love, and snoozy lil Thief smack dab in the middle.
IME, wizard as a class in my experience attracts more than its share of players or characters who feel like they are entitled to be the best class or gods who lord over other players and dominate play at the table through their magic.The Abjuration Wizard isn't my personal favorite Wizard subclass; but it's still a Wizard (the bestest class) and there are some interesting tricks one can pull off with it. I know a number of people who swear by it. Preventing damage to another PC feels pretty awesome to me personally. (When performed in play)
Plus Paladin as a class seems in my experience, ironically, to attract more than its share of players or characters who feel entitled to bully other PCs. Something about how its written.
That is some pretty crappy experiences then.IME, wizard as a class in my experience attracts more than its share of players or characters who feel like they are entitled to be the best class or gods who lord over other players and dominate play at the table through their magic.![]()