D&D (2024) Complete Divine Power: Cleric Domain Tier List

[Horwath]

It does combo with true strike though. You're gaining a one handed 1d8-1d12 weapon that deals force damage and later radiant as well. Arcane cleric would get to add potent cantrip to that damage. It's competing with sacred flame/toll the dead.

War cleric probably wants Shillelagh now due to MAD requirements on heavy weapons.

I'm also wondering if chromatic orb might be better than Shield. Especially with +10 to hit to start it up.

it only works if you want to invest in WIS and STR.
bonus action attack is based on normal weapon ability usage but the numbers of usages are based on WIS.

so you end up with more usages with bad effects.
you can get a feat at 4th level and then pump only +2 WIS and then +2 STR.
unless you do not care about effectiveness of that Bonus action attack.

and with focus on STR, you need to take 1st level option for heavy armor+martial weapons as you will not have room for dex. and martial weapons will mostly be a waste as you will fight with a plank of wood 90% of the time.

 

[Ashrym]

High strength is more MAD without rolled stats. And you will have the same issue leveling up dexterity based will have vs buffing wisdom.

And dexterity is just a lot more useful. 2014 16 wisdom and 14 dex and gon was thr better option now 17 wisdom, 14 dex and con imhoo.

The difference between 14 DEX and 15 STR is minor, and if you think 1 point of AC is minor one way the 1 point of AC is minor the other way going with 13 STR instead using chainmail. STR as an attack stat becomes irrelevant with shillelagh.

Not many war clerics rely on stealth, acrobatics, or sleight of hand. They will make athletics checks though. They do not need DEX for AC or attacks. They do use STR to open up armor and weapons. DEX is only relevant in +2 initiative and a different saving throw bonus with your example.

 

[Zardnaar]

The difference between 14 DEX and 15 STR is minor, and if you think 1 point of AC is minor one way the 1 point of AC is minor the other way going with 13 STR instead using chainmail. STR as an attack stat becomes irrelevant with shillelagh.

Not many war clerics rely on stealth, acrobatics, or sleight of hand. They will make athletics checks though. They do not need DEX for AC or attacks. They do use STR to open up armor and weapons. DEX is only relevant in +2 initiative and a different saving throw bonus with your example.

With guidance though there's a lot more dex based skills. Also matters with ranged weapons (less relevant in 2024).

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Why not?

Why would they? Generally abilities of the same kind don’t stack in 5e, and these both REPLACE the normal stat with the casting stat.

 

[Mistwell]

Why would they? Generally abilities of the same kind don’t stack in 5e, and these both REPLACE the normal stat with the casting stat.

If you're using the True Strike cantrip from the 2024 edition, you can apply it to a weapon with the light property, which allows you to make a bonus attack using another weapon with the light property, which can be a club with the Shillelagh cantrip applied to it. In effect, you're dealing 1d6+mod and 1d8+mod damage with a single attack action.

Is this good for the War cleric? I don't know yet. Might not be.

 

[Zardnaar]

If you're using the True Strike cantrip from the 2024 edition, you can apply it to a weapon with the light property, which allows you to make a bonus attack using another weapon with the light property, which can be a club with the Shillelagh cantrip applied to it. In effect, you're dealing 1d6+mod and 1d8+mod damage with a single attack action.

Is this good for the War cleric? I don't know yet. Might not be.

I've been looking at a war cleric MC.

More relevant for that but interesting interaction I missed cheers.

Been thinking about true strike Eldritch knight and knocking things prone with a staff.

 

[Ashrym]

If you're using the True Strike cantrip from the 2024 edition, you can apply it to a weapon with the light property, which allows you to make a bonus attack using another weapon with the light property, which can be a club with the Shillelagh cantrip applied to it. In effect, you're dealing 1d6+mod and 1d8+mod damage with a single attack action.

Is this good for the War cleric? I don't know yet. Might not be.

Light​

When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a Light weapon, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn. That extra attack must be made with a different Light weapon, and you don’t add your ability modifier to the extra attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative. For example, you can attack with a Shortsword in one hand and a Dagger in the other using the Attack action and a Bonus Action, but you don’t add your Strength or Dexterity modifier to the damage roll of the Bonus Action unless that modifier is negative.

Note the bold etc.

True Strike​

Divination Cantrip (Bard, Sorcerer, Warlock, Wizard)

Casting Time: Action
Range: Self
Components: S, M (a weapon with which you have proficiency and that is worth 1+ CP)
Duration: Instantaneous
Guided by a flash of magical insight, you make one attack with the weapon used in the spell’s casting. The attack uses your spellcasting ability for the attack and damage rolls instead of using Strength or Dexterity. If the attack deals damage, it can be Radiant damage or the weapon’s normal damage type (your choice).

Cantrip Upgrade. Whether you deal Radiant damage or the weapon’s normal damage type, the attack deals extra Radiant damage when you reach levels 5 (1d6), 11 (2d6), and 17 (3d6).

Magic [Action]​

When you take the Magic action, you cast a spell that has a casting time of an action or use a feature or magic item that requires a Magic action to be activated.

If you cast a spell that has a casting time of 1 minute or longer, you must take the Magic action on each turn of that casting, and you must maintain Concentration while you do so. If your Concentration is broken, the spell fails, but you don’t expend a spell slot. See also “Concentration.”

True Strike is still the Magic Action and the bonus action for the second weapon still requires the Attack Action.

 

[Zardnaar]

Note the bold etc.





True Strike is still the Magic Action and the bonus action for the second weapon still requires the Attack Action.

Yeah you need war magic or bardic equivalent.

 

[Mistwell]

Note the bold etc.





True Strike is still the Magic Action and the bonus action for the second weapon still requires the Attack Action.

Ah that's right I was thinking what Zard mentioned, you use the war priest ability for the bonus action attack. That's the combo I had seen mentioned.

I also think he might be right that a multiclass combo might be best to use for this one.

 

[Zardnaar]

Ah that's right I was thinking what Zard mentioned, you use the war priest ability for the bonus action attack. That's the combo I had seen mentioned.

I also think he might be right that a multiclass combo might be best to use for this one.

It's looking really sexy on an Eldritch Knight Paladin, or Ranger.

BG3 I had a EK6/Cleric 6 build as a pure cleric replacement.