Complete Scoundrel gives alignments for Batman, James Bond, Riddick, and more...

[Mystery Man]

The one that grated on me the most ist Al Swearengen as Chaotic Neutral. If he's not evil, I don't know who is...

I think maybe Swearengen and Riddik got mixed up in print, nothing else makes any sense.

 

[Stalker0]

Definately go with Swearengin and Riddick as evil. Doing a few goods things does not suddenly pull you off the evil bandwagon. They kill, they steal, they do what it takes to survive. And its not like they are actively trying to help people, they might if the situation is there on occasion, but in general they do more harm than good.

 

[teitan]

I wouldn't class Batman as LG, but a rather extreme LN. Maybe once, early in his career he may have been good but I don't think he is anymore.

Sawyer ... thats a tough one. I don't see him as NE at all. After some internal debate I think he's CN. He's certainly not evil IMO.

And finally, Riddick, he's not CE at all. He's NE bordering TN to my mind. Yes, he's a remorseless killer but as we see from both films he is prepared to make a stand for something.

Have you been reading Batman in the last year? Lawful Good all the way and judging the last 15 or so years versus the 50+ that Batman has under his belt is hardly fair. The superheroic good guy is the Batman that MOST people know, not the Frank Miller, crazy ninja "prick" Batman.

Riddick is hardly CE, I agree and I put him in the CHaotic Neutral camp myself. CN and CE can seem similar until you look underneath the character. Riddick is much like Conan. He isn't going to go out and just kill people for a good time but he isn't necessarily going to help someone without some benefit to himself MOST of the time, examples being Jack and the Muslim Priest whose name escapes me at the moment. Riddick just wants to be left alone and is misunderstood. He won't hesitate to kill because he had to in order to survive.

 

[teitan]

It would have been interesting to see a comparison between Supes and Batman. If Batman is LG then what is Superman?

Lawful Good. Superman is a white light Paladin. Two people can be lawful good and have the strained relationship of post Crisis DCU.

 

[Terath Ninir]

Riddick is hardly CE, I agree and I put him in the CHaotic Neutral camp myself. CN and CE can seem similar until you look underneath the character. Riddick is much like Conan. He isn't going to go out and just kill people for a good time but he isn't necessarily going to help someone without some benefit to himself MOST of the time, examples being Jack and the Muslim Priest whose name escapes me at the moment. Riddick just wants to be left alone and is misunderstood. He won't hesitate to kill because he had to in order to survive.

While I'm leaning more towards CE myself, the parallels between him and Conan are very, very strong. Spoiler in the next paragraph...

Spoiler

When he sits down on the throne at the end of the second movie, I was VERY strongly reminded of one of the classic pictures of Conan the King. I don't think that was unintentional, either.

 

[teitan]

Starbuck is Good? Huh?!

Might be referring to the ORIGINAL STarbuck y'know.

 

[Seeten]

Riddick isnt Chaotic Evil, he didnt kill every single person in the entire movie.

My mom had a chihuahua more evil than THAT.

 

[teitan]

While I'm leaning more towards CE myself, the parallels between him and Conan are very, very strong. Spoiler in the next paragraph...

Spoiler

When he sits down on the throne at the end of the second movie, I was VERY strongly reminded of one of the classic pictures of Conan the King. I don't think that was unintentional, either.

Yes but what did Riddick do that was inherently evil? Leaving whatshername behind was a necessity for survival because she had already proven she would sacrifice any of them for her own survival, without much hesitation.

 

[Terath Ninir]

Riddick isnt Chaotic Evil, he didnt kill every single person in the entire movie.

My mom had a chihuahua more evil than THAT.

See? That's the cartoony version of CE I'm talking about. It might work for demons, but it doesn't work as an alignment for anyone else...

 

[Terath Ninir]

Yes but what did Riddick do that was inherently evil? Leaving whatshername behind was a necessity for survival because she had already proven she would sacrifice any of them for her own survival, without much hesitation.

Well, I can't remember exactly what he did to get arrested by the bounty hunter, but I remember it was pretty darn nasty. And he didn't exactly do anything "good" in Pitch Black. He pretty much needed to work with everyone else to get off the planet. Only the most idiotic of villians wouldn't have been a team player when his life ABSOLUTELY depended on it.

But I do say "leaning" to CE. I'm not sure he's actually that nasty. He's definitely selfish first and foremost, though.