[Completly OT] Xbox or PS2?

[shadowlight]

One other thing about XBox - I haven't found any good kid games for it. Don't get me wrong. I have a `box and love it, but I really don't want my 4 year old to play 'M' & 'T' rated games. So I broke down and bought a Gamecube for him for Christmas It's got excellent graphics and tons of great games for kids. (And as an added bonus, I'll get to play Metroid Prime )

My point: If you've got kids and want to have a good selection for them. I'd go Gamecube over XBox...

 

[Shapermc]

No one has mantioned that Xbox has bought RARE for exclusivity (Conckers bad fur day, the Donkey Kong Games)

My Recomendation = Get a Dreamcast. Huge Library. Best next gen concol for 2-d gaming. Great controler selection (there were so many 3rd party controlers put out that if you cant find one that you like just buy a converter to use your PS controler)

My 2nd Recomendation = Neo-Geo. Yea true it is expensive, but man it was released in '89 and do you know how many new games came out for it this year? 4! Rage of the Dragons, King of Fighters 2002, Metal Slug 4, and one other. Great 2-d library and it is still going with many planed releases next year.

If you want another recomendation. . . Stay away from the PS2 unless you are a Squaresoft fan boy. It has the highest malfunction/return rate of any system. After last holiday season it was reported that 10% of all new PS2 were returned/repaired due to manufacturer err. Don't get me wrong PS2 has some great games out there, but I am afraid to use it sometimes thinking that I might Break it. About half of my DVD's dont work on it past the point where the disk changes layers ( but this does not bother me because I just use my DVD player in the living room then. The PS2 is in the bedroom right now.) Honestly if yo got the $$$ get all three and reap the benifits of competitive market This is like SNES v Genesis back in the 90's it is great!!

Also I am a SEGA fanboy so SEGA seems to be giving the best exclusivity to GC and Xbox. I think that they have some resentment towards PS2 from it shutting out the Dreamcast

EDIT: M$ purchasing RARE = More Kiddie games on the horizion.

 

[Shapermc]

If you find that you have got a PS2 that doesn't play some DVDs, you can just pull out the warranty and have it replaced.

And for the low low low low price of only $110 + s/h

 

[Aldymnor]

I have both (and a cube if anyone cares ¬.¬) and this season, I'd take the Xbox, 2 to 1. But that's me. all about preference.

 

[Mallus]

My Recomendation = Get a Dreamcast. Huge Library. Best next gen concol for 2-d gaming. Great controler selection (there were so many 3rd party controlers put out that if you cant find one that you like just buy a converter to use your PS controler)

Great recommendation. While house-sitting this weekend, an old friend and I spent a day playing Dreamcast titles. It's the best {semi}next-gen system for multiplayer games, period. Virtua Tennis {or 2k2}, Powerstone 2, Giga Wing 2 and Soul Calibur made 10 hours sail right by... {didn't touch any of great 2D fighters. There not my buddy's cup of hot blood}. And its $50 bucks. I'm debating getting a spare {I'm using a launch-day system} for the inevitable day when mine breaks down.

If you want another recomendation. . . Stay away from the PS2 unless you are a Squaresoft fan boy.

I'm definitely not a Sony fanboy. I never owned/played PS1, the first Final Fantasy I played was 10, and you know something, I'm glad I got a PS2. Huge library of games, some of which are truly exceptional. Many of which can be had for US $20.00. The reality of Sony's market share makes it a hard product to avoid. More games, and more games at a discount price point...

And the whole malfunction issue is really not limited to PS2's. From what I understand, quality control for just about every piece of computer hardware is spotty --and again, its all about the low price-point. Any of you order a computer online, only to ship it right back because it won't boot straight out of the box?

And knock on wood, my PS2 was a year old last month and its doing fine.

 

[Shapermc]

I'm definitely not a Sony fanboy. I never owned/played PS1, the first Final Fantasy I played was 10, and you know something, I'm glad I got a PS2. Huge library of games, some of which are truly exceptional. Many of which can be had for US $20.00. The reality of Sony's market share makes it a hard product to avoid. More games, and more games at a discount price point...

And the whole malfunction issue is really not limited to PS2's. From what I understand, quality control for just about every piece of computer hardware is spotty --and again, its all about the low price-point. Any of you order a computer online, only to ship it right back because it won't boot straight out of the box?

And knock on wood, my PS2 was a year old last month and its doing fine.

All valid points. All good points. PS2 is the system for the person on a budget (if the Dreamcast is not you "cup of hot blood") and I just picked up Resident Evil Code Veronica for $10 used on sat. I am not saying that it is a bad system. It has a huge library and most of the good classics are $20 - $35 new. I give the system all this. But I know that the PS2 has the HIGHEST rate of malfunctions in any system ever to hit the market (this is system stuff not games crashing) and most of it revolves around the DVD player. I have more PS2 titles in my gaming library than any of the other nextgen consoles in production (no where near the 60+ that I have for the DC). But I have spent 2x as much time on my Xbox gaming than my PS2 and that Is what it boils down to for me. I was disapointed with the probems in the PS2 dvd playback and it was always with brand new movies. When I bought Kiss of the Dragon (Jet Li and Bridget Fonda) I poped it in with out ever having been viewed befor. It hit the halfway point and tried to swithc layers. It could not. I thought that it was a bad batch of DVD burnings (I refused to think that it was the PS2) so I took it back and got a new one. Same problem. I tryed another DVD player and had no problems I took it to my friends PS2. No problems . Now I would not want this to happen to someone who is looking for a DVD player that plays games, and I can think of 5 other movies that this happen to in the PS2. If that is what you want go with the Xbox (a DVD player that plays games). It is the best bang for your buck right now. Like I said for your first system unless there are some die hard games that you must have for it I would recomend avoiding the risk of a PS2 malfunction. Also Xbox has Higher DVD playback resolution .

I hope that that clerifies my point. I was not saying that PS2 was bad if you are a gamer, but if your looking for a DVD player that plays games go with the Xbox (it is also my fav system at the moment).

 

[Welverin]

Xbox: DVD, newer, better graphics, DOA3, Jet Set Radio Future.

Hey it even comes with JSRF currently. Plus Shenmue 2 is already out (a good game that, admittedly, isn't for everyone) and Panzer Dragoon Orta is on the way early next year (sounds good by all reports so far).

No one has mantioned that Xbox has bought RARE for exclusivity (Conckers bad fur day, the Donkey Kong Games)

EDIT: M$ purchasing RARE = More Kiddie games on the horizion.

First of all Rare does not own the rights to Donkey Kong, those are Nintendo's, as are those for Conker (I believe).

You can count on Perfect Dark for the 'box, as well as a few other games but most of the stuff they developed for Nintendo were properies owned by Nintendo that they can't take with them.

As for kiddie games from Rare on the box, I wouldn't count on it because that doesn't seem to be what MS wants or what rare has the rights to.

 

[Ristamar]

First of all Rare does not own the rights to Donkey Kong, those are Nintendo's, as are those for Conker (I believe).

You can count on Perfect Dark for the 'box, as well as a few other games but most of the stuff they developed for Nintendo were properies owned by Nintendo that they can't take with them.

As for kiddie games from Rare on the box, I wouldn't count on it because that doesn't seem to be what MS wants or what rare has the rights to.

Nintendo does own Donkey Kong, though I believe Rare has the rights to Conker.

You're right about the 'kiddie games' though. Rare's games are generally mature, though some are suitable kids. Conker, however, is as far from 'kiddie' as you can get. Rare had to tone that game down before releasing it, or else it would've been slapped with an AO (Adults Only) rating.

 

[Shapermc]

Well as Far as RARE goes they have 2 Xbox games lined up. One is a 'kiddie' game the other is Perfect Dark "plans". The first one is that will be kiddie is based around the story of a pixi and it will be adventure based. It never looked interesting so hence I forgot the name of it quite easily.

I belive that RARE owns Conker and Blast Corp. Blast Corp would be a bad ass game to bring to Xbox.

 

[Mallus]

Shapermc...

it is also my fav system at the moment).

...what do you like on the 'Box? Since the bundle w/JSRF included, I've been toying with the idea of getting one. What are your personal faves? I know what the sites and mags say, but I don't know anyone personally with one.