Converting Epic Level Creatures

[Shade]

Did you forget to cast your persistent mind blank that day?

Appparently!

So, taking what we've got so far...

Cleave
Devastating Critical (bite)
Great Cleave
Improved Critical (bite)
Overwhelming Critical (bite)
Power Attack
Power Critical
Weapon Focus (bite)

Great Fortitude
Lightning Reflexes
Iron Will
Epic Fortitude
Epic Reflexes
Epic Will

Improved Initiative
Superior Initiative

How about also...

Combat Expertise
Improved Trip
Knock-Down
Superior Expertise

Epic Prowess
Improved Sunder
Epic Sunder

Combat Reflexes
Improved Combat Reflexes
Hold the Line
Spellcasting Harrier

Chaotic Mind
Hostile Mind


Even if we use all of those, it still gets 5 feats.

 

[Cleon]

Appparently!

So, taking what we've got so far...

Cleave
Devastating Critical (bite)
Great Cleave
Improved Critical (bite)
Overwhelming Critical (bite)
Power Attack
Power Critical
Weapon Focus (bite)

Great Fortitude
Lightning Reflexes
Iron Will
Epic Fortitude
Epic Reflexes
Epic Will

Improved Initiative
Superior Initiative

How about also...

Combat Expertise
Improved Trip
Knock-Down
Superior Expertise

Epic Prowess
Improved Sunder
Epic Sunder

Combat Reflexes
Improved Combat Reflexes
Hold the Line
Spellcasting Harrier

Chaotic Mind
Hostile Mind


Even if we use all of those, it still gets 5 feats.

A draeden has psionic powers, making it ineligible for Chaotic Mind or Hostile Mind.

Epic Prowess only give it another +1 to hit, and I don't think it'll be missing very often.

That gives it seven or eight feats (depending on whether we cut Prowess).

Unfortunately, its Master of Magic can't use Automatic Quicken Spell (or the other Autos). Unless you want to reword that SA so it uses spells rather than SLAs...

Master of Magic (Sp): At will, a draeden may use any arcane or divine spell from any spell list. The saving throw DC for such abilities is 30 + spell level (10 + spell level + Charisma bonus). Caster level equals draeden's Hit Dice.
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At the very least it needs Epic Spellcasting.

How about Exceptional Deflection, with its prerequisites of Deflect Arrows and Improved Unarmed Strike, so it can parry ranged touch spells?

 

[Shade]

A draeden has psionic powers, making it ineligible for Chaotic Mind or Hostile Mind.

D'oh! I missed that.

Epic Prowess only give it another +1 to hit, and I don't think it'll be missing very often.

It's a prereq for Epic Sunder.

That gives it seven or eight feats (depending on whether we cut Prowess).

How about Exceptional Deflection, with its prerequisites of Deflect Arrows and Improved Unarmed Strike, so it can parry ranged touch spells?

Certainly!

 

[Cleon]

It's a prereq for Epic Sunder.

Oh right, better keep it then.

But what about the "make Master of Magic cast spells so it can use Auto Spell Metamagic Epic Feats" notion?

 

[Shade]

Oh right, better keep it then.

But what about the "make Master of Magic cast spells so it can use Auto Spell Metamagic Epic Feats" notion?

I'd rather not, because then it has to have verbal, somatic, and material components. How about this rewrite instead...

Master of Magic (Sp): At will, a draeden may use any arcane or divine spell from any spell list as a spell-like ability. The saving throw DC for such abilities is 30 + spell level (10 + spell level + Charisma bonus). Caster level equals draeden's Hit Dice. A draeden may apply any metamagic feat it possesses to these spell-like abilities as if they were spells.

Master of Psionics (Ps): At will, a draeden may manifest any psionic power from any power list as a psi-like ability. The saving throw DC for such abilities is 30 + power level (10 + spell level + Charisma bonus). Caster level equals draeden's Hit Dice. A draeden may apply any metapsionic feat it possesses to these psi-like abilities as if they were psionic powers.

 

[Nookie]

Arn't there metamagic feat equivalents for SLA's somewhere in some book? It would make burning off those thirty or so feats a bit easier.

 

[Cleon]

I'd rather not, because then it has to have verbal, somatic, and material components. How about this rewrite instead...

Master of Magic (Sp): At will, a draeden may use any arcane or divine spell from any spell list as a spell-like ability. The saving throw DC for such abilities is 30 + spell level (10 + spell level + Charisma bonus). Caster level equals draeden's Hit Dice. A draeden may apply any metamagic feat it possesses to these spell-like abilities as if they were spells.

Master of Psionics (Ps): At will, a draeden may manifest any psionic power from any power list as a psi-like ability. The saving throw DC for such abilities is 30 + power level (10 + spell level + Charisma bonus). Caster level equals draeden's Hit Dice. A draeden may apply any metapsionic feat it possesses to these psi-like abilities as if they were psionic powers.

That's a better solution than my previous proposal.

 

[Cleon]

Arn't there metamagic feat equivalents for SLA's somewhere in some book? It would make burning off those thirty or so feats a bit easier.

There are some, like Quicken Spell-Like Ability, but they're all worse than the Metamagic Epic Auto Spell equivalent. (E.g. Quicken SLA is 3/day, Auto Quicken is for ALL spells of a certain level...)

 

[Shade]

Now that we've worked that out, how may Auto-Quickens shall we give it? Any other metamagic feats?

 

[freyar]

So we need Quicken Spell first. If we give it 3 Auto-Quickens, that would take up a lot of the remaining feats. I guess the question is what other feats we have in mind. (We aren't running out of epic feat slots, are we?) Blinding Speed seems almost unfair and therefore necessary. Empower, Maximize, and Instensify Spell seem interesting, and we've already mentioned Epic Spellcasting. So we don't quite have room for all that...