Converting "generic setting" second edition monsters

[Shade]

Something like this...

If you have levels in more than one psionic class, you combine your power points from each class to make up your reserve. You can use these power points to manifest powers from any psionic class you have. For example, a 5th-level psion/5th-level psychic warrior has 20 power points from her psion levels (plus any bonus points from her Intelligence score) and 7 power points from her psychic warrior levels (plus any bonus points for a high Wisdom score), for a total of 27 power points (plus any bonus points). These points can be used to manifest any psion or psychic warrior powers the character knows. Your psychic energy springs from a single common source, and is not segregated by your training.

While you maintain a single reserve of power points from your class, race, and feat selections, you are still limited by the manifester level you have achieved with each power you know. For example, a 10th-level psion/2nd-level psychic warrior can spend up to 10 points when manifesting a psion power, but only up to 2 points when manifesting a psychic warrior power. Your wellspring of psychic energy is a single pool, but you might possess very different levels of training or accomplishment with powers you learned from different classes.

 

[BOZ]

At least +6...if we were adding psion levels to a girallon, they'd be unassoicated class levels, so 1/2 CR, or 12/2=6.

wouldn't they be unassociated levels regardless, since you are only getting the powers and not the BAB, save bonuses, skill points, feats, etc that normally go along with class levels?

 

[Shade]

Well, yeah, but I was just using that as a method of extrapolation. How does +6 work out on our girallon friend? Does it look like a CR 12 creature?

 

[BOZ]

it's a bit of a stretch. yes, it is a whole lot of psionic power, but i don't think the challenge it presents is quite doubled.

meanwhile:

If a vagabond inhabits a creature that has its own power points, the two creatures combine their power points to make up their reserve. The vagabond and host creature can use these power points to manifest any powers that either has. The manifester levels of the vagabond and host remain the same, so the manifester level for any power used is dependent on which creature is using the power. If the bond between the vagabond and its host ends, the two creatures divide up the remaining power points evenly (if either has died, the survivor retains all the power points), up to each creature's normal maximum.

 

[Shade]

So maybe +4 or +5? Or should it vary based on the base creature's HD, like the half-fiend template?

Your power point pool looks good.

 

[BOZ]

how does the half-fiend do it?

 

[Shade]

Challenge Rating: HD 4 or less, as base creature +1; HD 5 to 10, as base creature +2; HD 11 or more, as base creature +3.

 

[BOZ]

would doubling those values work fine?

 

[Shade]

Yeah, I think so. Good idea!

 

[BOZ]

now a CR 10 creature the girallon might just be!

what are we doing for level adjustment?