Converting monsters from Second Edition Monstrous Compendiums

[Shade]

Let's do it!

Updated.

I might lean toward CR 9 due to the number of attacks.

 

[freyar]

CR 9 it is. Though the kraken is only CR 12 (seems maybe too low).

If Cleon will provide a size, I think it's done.

 

[Shade]

Size 'em up, Cleon.

 

[Cleon]

Don't much like Improved Critical for them, maybe Blind-Fight instead since you don't fancy Iron Will?

 

[Cleon]

Size 'em up, Cleon.

Let's see:

Giant Squid (Huge): "These voracious creatures can have bodies more than 20 feet long"

Giant Octopus (Large): "These creatures are aggressive and territorial hunters, with arms reaching 10 feet or more in length. Their tentacles are studded with barbs and sharp-edged suckers."

Kraken (Gargantuan): "Six of the beast’s tentacles are shorter arms about 30 feet long; the remaining two are nearly 60 feet long and covered with barbs. Its beaklike mouth is located where the tentacles meet the lower portion of its body."

Hmm... how about:

Sea Demon: "These creatures are aggressive and territorial hunters with bodies at least 10 feet in diameter. Their tentacles are studded with barbs and sharp-edged suckers and reach 30 feet or more in length."

 

[Shade]

Updated.

We used Blind-Fight for the vampire squid, so let's stick with Improved Crit here. Our love for it is twice as strong as your dislike.

Anything left? Do we need an underbar for greater sea demons, or will standard advancement rules suffice?

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

We used Blind-Fight for the vampire squid, so let's stick with Improved Crit here. Our love for it is twice as strong as your dislike.

Anything left? Do we need an underbar for greater sea demons, or will standard advancement rules suffice?

We might need an underbar because they get more tentacle attacks.

Greater Sea Demons
A sea demon that has advanced to Gargantuan size has twelve tentacles with 20 hit points each and can make 10 tentacle attacks as part of a full attack.

Hold on! I just noticed we've forgotten to change the standard sea demon's number of tentacles from an octopus. They have 10 tentacles and 8 attacks, not 8 and 6...

Hmm, we can do without an underbar if we modify the full attack and combat entries so:

Full Attack: 8 tentacles +18 melee (1d8+8/19-20) and bite +13 melee (3d6+4)

Combat
An opponent can attack a sea demon's tentacles with a sunder attempt as if they were weapons. A sea demon has 10 tentacles with 10 hit points each (Gargantuan sea demons have 12 tentacles with 20 hit points each and can make 10 tentacle attacks as part of a full attack). If a sea demon is currently grappling a target with the tentacle that is being attacked, it usually uses another limb to make its attack of opportunity against the opponent making the sunder attempt. Severing one of a sea demon's tentacles deals 5 points of damage to the creature. A sea demon usually withdraws from combat if it loses four tentacles. The creature regrows severed limbs in 1d10+10 days.

 

[Shade]

The latter option appeals.

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[freyar]

Next?

 

[Cleon]

How about the Gorbel from the Fiend Folio Monstrous Compendium?

That weird little fellow doesn't seem to be in the Creature Catalog.