Converting prehistoric animals

[demiurge1138]

How about Power Attack, Improved Bull's Rush and Awesome Blow? And yes, I know the feats I originally gave the bronto are boring. But they are for all the MM dinos (too much Toughness).

Demiurge out.

 

[BOZ]

updating in homebrews - how's it lookin? we probably need to re-set the CR. 10 for a 26-HD creature is pretty pathetic.

 

[Shade]

CR 14 sounds about right.

 

[demiurge1138]

CR 10 for 26 HD is sad, but the primary ability of the thing is HP. Few special attacks and a bottom-of-the-barrel AC tend to reflect into a lower CR. Especially since the seismosaurus (the only "official" D&D sauropod) has 32 HD and a CR of 11, if I recall correctly.

Demiurge out.

 

[Zaster]

Especially since the seismosaurus (the only "official" D&D sauropod) has 32 HD and a CR of 11, if I recall correctly.

Minor correction. Seismo is CR 12.
I think the point is valid, though.

 

[Zaster]

A few more big animals and thier Challenge ratings for comparison:

Dire Elephant (MMII) is 20HD, AC 10, CR 10

Indricothere (FF) is 16HD, AC 19, CR 9

Dire Shark (MM) is 18HD, AC 17, CR 9

Triceratops (MM) is 16 HD, AC 18, CR 9

I'm thinking CR for our bronto might be 11 or 12 (??)

 

[BOZ]

i like 12, but it almost seems unfortunate for the CR to be less than half the HD, so i almost want to go 13.

updating; how's it look? http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1366007#post1366007

 

[Shade]

CR 12 should work. I definitely overstated it earlier, as it shouldn't outclass the seismosaurus.

Otherwise, it looks finished, except for the question mark after the weight range of 30-40 tons. This sounds reasonable to me, but once again I'll defer to the dino-experts.

 

[Zaster]

I've got a couple books handy:
Smithsonian Handbooks' "Dinosaurs and Prehistoric Life" says 38 1/2 tons.
Macmillan Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs & Prehistoric Animals says 33 tons.
So I think 30-40 tons is probably pretty much on the mark.

This is nit-picky on my part, but I find the following sentence really awkward:

This creature’s name, commonly mistaken as Brontosaurus, means “thunder lizard” for the sound it makes as it walks.

How about something like, "The creature's former name, Brontosaurus, means...", ect. More accurate, less ambiguous.

Otherwise, the text is really good, and I think we can prolly wrap this one up.

 

[BOZ]

i really wasn't sure how to write that line, but i definitely wanted the more regocnizable name to play a small part. anyone want to fix that line for me?