Converting "Real World" Animals and Vermin

[freyar]

The save feats sound like good choices. Rock-throwing is an interesting idea. You know, that would have been a decent idea for the chimp, too.

 

[demiurge1138]

I like rock throwing, definately. And maybe we should bring back rend/pummel.

 

[Cleon]

I like rock throwing, definately. And maybe we should bring back rend/pummel.

Pardon? It's got Rend already.

As for the Rock Throwing, a Medium-sized human throwing a rock probably does 1d4, implying a Huge ape does 1d8. That seems a bit wimpy, a Huge Giant's rock-throwing does 2d8, but they're specialists in it. I'd suggest splitting the difference and giving it 2d6 damage rocks. What Range Increment? My initial thought was something typical for a thrown weapon like 20 foot rather than a bowshot+ range of giantish rock-throwing, but then they are Giant Apes, so maybe they have a giant-like throwing arm - say, 120 feet like a Hill Giant?

Rock Throwing: The range increment is 20/120 feet for a giant ape’s thrown rocks. Full Attack: +6/+1 ranged (2d6+10)​

 

[Cleon]

The save feats sound like good choices. Rock-throwing is an interesting idea. You know, that would have been a decent idea for the chimp, too.

Okay, I'll pencil in the save Feats & Rock-Throwing stats.

 

[Shade]

Where's this from? It isn't the Gargantuan Carnivorous Ape from Gygax's Isle of the Ape, which is also a tempting topic of conversion if we haven't already done it.

Sorry for the omission! It's from Adventure Pack I.

As for the Isle of the Ape...

Ape of the Isle
Ape of the Isle, Oonga

What you've got so far is looking good.

 

[freyar]

Let's compromise on the range increment and go with 60 ft. Also, I don't believe you can normally get iterative ranged attacks.

 

[Shade]

Added to Homebrews. I put the climb speed of our lesser apes back in. If you want to drop it, convince me.

I see you added Improved Grab (the dire ape lacks it). If we're going that route, why not borrow the constrict and/or toss from Demiurge's giant ape? I really like the toss.

 

[demiurge1138]

I'm okay with climb speed.

 

[Cleon]

Sorry for the omission! It's from Adventure Pack I.

As for the Isle of the Ape...

Ape of the Isle
Ape of the Isle, Oonga

What you've got so far is looking good.

Ta, I vaguely remembered we had a conversion of Gygax's answer to Kong somewhere around here, but was too lazy to hunt it down.

Hmm, only Str 34 - has he been sick?

 

[Cleon]

Let's compromise on the range increment and go with 60 ft. Also, I don't believe you can normally get iterative ranged attacks.

60 feet is fine by me.

You're right about it not being iterative, I keep forgetting using a light/1H throwing weapon is a standard attack as per RAW. Mostly because I disagree with the rule.