Coup de grace

[UngeheuerLich]

Stunned, paralyzed and unconscious are a bit close to each other. I like paralized creatures not dropping to the floor. Stunned is more or less spot on.

Stunned: mentally more or less disabled. Able to shift slightly and to hold whatever you were holding and hold yourself on your feet. But not doing psionics or so.

Paralized: you are mentally awake, though your limbs are frozen in place, Your limbs can´t be moved. You can do psionics and such.

Unconscious: Your mental abilities are shut down completely. You can´t control limbs or something. You fall prone. But essentlially, your limbs could be moved.

So in this scenario, I would consider unconscious (and sleeping) creatures helpless in most cases. Parakized creatures may be helpless, if you can reach a very vulnerable spot, but usually the muscles stiffen so much, that many attack that would kill an unconscious characte won´t do.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

This combined with no AOOs for its use (at least not yet), means that Coup de Grace is much much more powerful than in the last two editions. Heck you can move in, kill the guy, and then move back.

AoO for moving back seems necessary. It will help the fighter beeing sticky and disallow wizards shocking grasping in and out etc...

 

[Remathilis]

AoO for moving back seems necessary. It will help the fighter beeing sticky and disallow wizards shocking grasping in and out etc...

D&D from time out of mine had a rule that basically said if you retreat from melee, you can't do anything else but move or your foe gets a free attack. I think we need to put the proto-OA back in.