Coup de Gras question.

[RigaMortus2]

I know what you mean- but I think M&M has a bit of an excuse, since they DON'T use the D20 rules. They made their own rules, and paid for the rights to them, they just happen to be quite similar to the D20 rules. However, I have to give them props, since they're the only D20 game that actually uses... well... the D20!

Huh? D&D uses the d20...

 

[MarkB]

Huh? D&D uses the d20...

I think what he was trying to convey is that M&M pretty much only uses the d20.

 

[Particle_Man]

I would cound PA with CdG, since the penalty would apply for the purpose of any AoOs the PAing CdGing PC would get. Throwin the SA of a Rogue and the DC goes high enough that most monsters will need a natural 20 not to die.

 

[the Jester]

For me, no attack roll = no Power Attack.

I am now persuaded that this is not by the book, but that's okay by me. It makes sense to me.

 

[Dracandross]

For me it sounds stupid that fighter can whack a ton of damage with attack roll + power attack but then suddenly when opponent is very vulnerable he cant SMASH it with all the might (s)he has. Specially if you consider weapon that does give just 2* crit.

Might be unbalancing though because that would mean coup would kill. Maybe id allow extra damage from powerattack counted for HPs but not for fort save.

-Dracandross

 

[Staffan]

Might be unbalancing though because that would mean coup would kill.

That's pretty much the point. A CdG is what you have when you execute people.

 

[Dracandross]

That's pretty much the point. A CdG is what you have when you execute people.

Yeah its the point of CdG but it is still unbalancing to let one with PA to kill anything regardless of HPs with 95% chance compared to one without PA, saves are little more possible to roll. Specially at low levels when base damage doesn't go so high up.

I think its not too easy to behead one with sword in combat situation and CdG already gives autocrit (ie hit to vital areas). Therefore suggestion i made sounds reasonable balancewise and gives edge to one with PA versus one without.

-Dracandross

 

[glass]

For me, no attack roll = no Power Attack. I am now persuaded that this is not by the book, but that's okay by me. It makes sense to me.

It only makes sense if PA is an attack by attack option. Would you allow a PC to PA on his first attack, but not on the later ones with lesser bonuses?


glass.

 

[glass]

I always thought it was KOO duh GRAH... Hmmm

That is what the PHB Glossary says, IIRC, but it's wrong. Maybe we should ask WotC for errata.


glass.

 

[Deng]

I know this is slightly off topic but is it OK by the rules to CdG with a damaging touch spell (e.g. shocking grasp)?

Personally I would say yes as you count as being armed but what do you guys think?