werk
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Patryn of Elvenshae said:Only if you wanted a magic spiked shield.
SO to pursue that, could you have a shield with magic spikes instead?
Patryn of Elvenshae said:Only if you wanted a magic spiked shield.
werk said:SO to pursue that, could you have a shield with magic spikes instead?
[mandatory nitpick]The description states no such thing. The description states that you can bash an opponent with a shield, using it as an off-hand weapon. (Not that you can't bash an opponent with a shield, using it as a primary weapon.)[/nitpick]Pinotage said:There's some debate about whether you can even use two shields given that the description states that a shield bash is an 'offhand' attack. [my emphasis - IR]
Infiniti2000 said:There is no separation from the spikes and the shield. A spiked shield is a spiked shield. It is not a shield with spikes. This may sound pedantic, but it means that you do not need to spend +300gp on the spikes. It also means that the masterwork enhancement bonus on the shield does not give you +1 on attack rolls on a spiked shield.
Not that if you say that you add masterwork spikes to a masterwork shield, spending 159 for the shield portion and 310 for the spikes portion, the masterwork bonus on the spikes would suddenly become useless because of this quote:
"An enhancement bonus on a spiked shield does not improve the effectiveness of a shield bash made with it, but a spiked shield can be made into a magic weapon in its own right."
Note that the spiked shield can be made into a weapon, not that the spikes can be made into a weapon.
werk said:That's what I was going to say, aren't the spikes the weapon?
We've always played that they are basically two separate items.
Nail said:Can such a character benefit from the total +12 AC bonus?
Hypersmurf said:Absolutely. He'll take the penalties associated with non-proficiency, but for a mithral shield, that's zero anyway.
-Hyp.