evilbob
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Aw, no need to be that way.I tell you what. Go to the store. Buy a black Magic Marker. When you get your Player's Handbook, find every place where feats are referred to as an "optional rule," and black out the word "optional."
Aw, no need to be that way.I tell you what. Go to the store. Buy a black Magic Marker. When you get your Player's Handbook, find every place where feats are referred to as an "optional rule," and black out the word "optional."
Sorry, snark is kind of my default response to stuff like this. But I really don't see the complaint here. Feats already work the way the OP wants. You can mix and match. You can have characters who get all ability boosts, characters who get all feats, and characters with some of each playing at the same table in the same party. What difference does it make that the option exists to play without feats if your group prefers it that way?Aw, no need to be that way.
Sorry, snark is kind of my default response to stuff like this. But I really don't see the complaint here. Feats already work the way the OP wants. You can mix and match. You can have characters who get all ability boosts, characters who get all feats, and characters with some of each playing at the same table in the same party. What difference does it make that the option exists to play without feats if your group prefers it that way?
It is more complicated. I don't see why it's a bad thing that new groups have the option to use feats or not use them. If they're wary of allowing feats, they can choose not to use feats. Later they can decide they're ready to add that to their game. Why do you insist they must have them from the get-go?That one is sanctioned and the other one is subject to DM's caprice, making it opt-in in a group (read DM) instead of purely personal basis. Many DMs out there will be petty enough to want to intrude too much into character building -and it is bad enough when the rules don't explicitly give them the freedom to do so, IME they are worse in this circumstances- and it being called a variant will scare the heck out of new DMs who might think it is too complicated.
It is more complicated. I don't see why it's a bad thing that new groups have the option to use feats or not use them. If they're wary of allowing feats, they can choose not to use feats. Later they can decide they're ready to add that to their game. Why do you insist they must have them from the get-go?
And for every complaint I see about dictatorial DMs, I can find another about whiny entitled players. Frankly, all that is on you to sort out with your fellow gamers. The "variant rules" tag on feats makes it clear that the game can work fine without feats. Things will not break if feats are removed. That is useful information for everybody. What you do with that information is up to you.
This is a fair point; it's almost like their "old" wording got mixed in with the newer stuff.There was no need to say "with the DM's permission", something more along "with your group's consent", or "your DM might allow or disallow certain options with the group consensus" would have been better IMO.
That would be patently incorrect.(As probably the only person who has done multiple high level PvP tests of 5E here). By the third test; no one even wanted to play a caster, even assuming you get all spells back when one respawns. Casters get wrecked.
Every time someone carouses about casters at high level in this game, please go read the sheer amount of spells that require concentration, and then realize that you can ever only have a single one of them up at a time.
Also, is there a reason we have a giant flood of just created accounts? Not sure if this happens normally or we have a lot of secondary and tertiary accounts being made...
LOL - I also want to give you XP for this post!You are not allowed to think or feel things unless your DM allows you to.
That's how it works at my table.
And I tell them they like it that way.
Thaumaturge.
It's the first sign that you have an over-controlling DM. They crave power over player generation decisions. If I can handle the complexity of feats, which, let's be honest, doesn't requires a whole of game mastery since they became 'Super' feats, that's my business. Making feats 'optional' or 'variant' only encourages over-controlling DMs to exercise power that doesn't need to be wielded. Especially if you're trying to raise up a new generation of DMs.
I could be wrong about 5e's mechanics, but I'm pretty sure there are two things messing with your math here:
1) you can only re-roll 1 die. so if you roll 1 and 1 on 2d6 you only get to re-roll one of those dice and...
2) you must accept the second roll. So if you re-roll your one die from the 1 and 1 on 2d6 example and get a third 1 you still end up with a total of 2.
So from the initial roll of 2 you would end up with a possible result in the range of 2 to 7.
Whereas a 1d12 weapon damage roll of 1 would be re-rolled to have a possible result of the entire range of 1 to 12!
Please let me know if my reading of the rules two days ago is wrong.
Identifying magic items: I will be house-ruling the "fondle it for a Short Rest and know what it does" rule. This is a 4E hold-out that I never liked in that edition either.
Let's just be happy it wasn't a Rod of Lordly Might.I really wish you had not said it that way. Very bad image.
In the background, a mumbling Dwarf "Oh yeah, I really want to find out what you can do. Where did I put my bear grease?" as he lustfully handles a magic axe taken off a foe.
Not at all. I am not speaking about PVP, but about the variety of tools that can be used to solve non-combat problems. While we have not seen the Paladin and Ranger yet, the Fighter and Rogue appear to be even less capable of stacking non-combat bonuses than prior editions (both 3.5 and 4).That would be patently incorrect.(As probably the only person who has done multiple high level PvP tests of 5E here). By the third test; no one even wanted to play a caster, even assuming you get all spells back when one respawns. Casters get wrecked.
I picked up a 5E starter set at my local convention, then came on here to comment about it after playing for several days. I had a previous account, but the forums have changed since I last visited and required a re-register.Also, is there a reason we have a giant flood of just created accounts? Not sure if this happens normally or we have a lot of secondary and tertiary accounts being made...
Not at all. I am not speaking about PVP, but about the variety of tools that can be used to solve non-combat problems. While we have not seen the Paladin and Ranger yet, the Fighter and Rogue appear to be even less capable of stacking non-combat bonuses than prior editions (both 3.5 and 4).
I picked up a 5E starter set at my local convention, then came on here to comment about it after playing for several days. I had a previous account, but the forums have changed since I last visited and required a re-register.![]()
Identifying magic items: I will be house-ruling the "fondle it for a Short Rest and know what it does" rule. This is a 4E hold-out that I never liked in that edition either.