D&D 3E/3.5 D&D 3.5: Harvesting Dragonhide

[Dandu]

It doesn't help that material components are usually there for entertainment value.

 

[Jimlock]

I just never have. I don't like the image that the only way a wizard can cast his spells is if he has his material components handy (though actually, I can buy it more for a wizard than a sorcerer). It just doesn't fit my concept of a wizard and what a wizard does. Personal preference is all.

Generally in any campaign I run, all spellcasters get the Eschew Material feat for free.

I see this exactly the other way around!
I always picture wizards using their weird and creepy materials when casting spells...

 

[lordxaviar]

It doesn't help that material components are usually there for entertainment value.

especially if that kender has exchanged one thing for another... and the spell works but not the way intended... powered silver instead of powdered iron perhaps...mm

I have some very evil DM thoughts... thanx...lol,, all i can think of now is

LW Evans ...The mis-enchanted sword

 

[Dross]

If taken literary the feat eschew materials is useless indeed.

How so?
The obvious (if somewhat niche example) is losing your spell component pouch in some way (stolen, being captured, or found in a compromising position with someone). If it never happens, then yes, the feat is useless.

If it is possible to lose your pouch, then not so much.

A DM could always say that the dragon scale is too big to fit in the pouch (requiring some way to obtain it for casting).

 

[lordxaviar]

How so?
The obvious (if somewhat niche example) is losing your spell component pouch in some way (stolen, being captured, or found in a compromising position with someone). If it never happens, then yes, the feat is useless.

If it is possible to lose your pouch, then not so much.

A DM could always say that the dragon scale is too big to fit in the pouch (requiring some way to obtain it for casting).

true even from a small dragon IM sure the scales would be larger than the tiny dimensions given to a spell pouch.

 

[Rhun]

The obvious (if somewhat niche example) is losing your spell component pouch in some way (stolen, being captured, or found in a compromising position with someone). If it never happens, then yes, the feat is useless.

If it is possible to lose your pouch, then not so much.

Also, one poor saving throw on an area of effect type spell, and your spell component pouch can go bye-bye. Or a reasonably competent rogue could do the same. Hell, considering Spot isn't a class skill for wizards/sorcerer, a 6th rogue could conceivably take out a 20th level wizard by palming his pouch (though I would hope the wizard had enough gear to make this infeasible).

 

[lordxaviar]

My DM says I need to make a survival check to harvest the hide from a dead dragon. As far as I can tell, that is an assumption (a logical assumption, but an assumption nonetheless,) without any support from the source material.

It's not something I necessarily disagree with, but I just want to see if it has any official basis to stand on.

ok back to the original query.... have some hell to add to it for your DM

how big is the dragon? weight will equal time... on the larger dragons I see it taking some major time to skin.... hell just to roll it over... dam... and If i was the local magistrate I would be rather pissed and would want you to get rid of th remains as quickly as possible... other dragons flying by might not be too happy or its mate (been there will post that story some time) not to mention every carrion eater for miles will know about it...

evil evil....lol

so I would agree with your dm survival to skin it... not bad... could have been worse..

 

[Jimlock]

Also, one poor saving throw on an area of effect type spell, and your spell component pouch can go bye-bye. Or a reasonably competent rogue could do the same. Hell, considering Spot isn't a class skill for wizards/sorcerer, a 6th rogue could conceivably take out a 20th level wizard by palming his pouch (though I would hope the wizard had enough gear to make this infeasible).

How overpowered is the wizard now?

 

[Dandu]

Very much so.

 

[Rhun]

How overpowered is the wizard now?

Very much so.

Yes, still overpowered at high levels as Dandu points out. I'm just also pointing out that the wizard class, per RAW, has an inherent weakness (though few DMs seem to exploit this).