D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

But but but the economy! Won't someone think of the poor, defenseless economy?!

Economy is gonna be shot regardless.

 

[CleverNickName]

Economy is gonna be shot regardless.

Yep. But that's the biggest argument you will hear against a shutdown. "If they close everything, companies will go out of business and workers will lose everything!"

I guess they think that having tens of thousands of people dead and millions more that are too sick to work won't affect the economy at all...

 

[Zardnaar]

Yep. But that's the biggest argument you will hear against a shutdown. "If they close everything, companies will go out of business and workers will lose everything!"

I guess they think that having tens of thousands of people dead and millions more that are too sick to work won't affect the economy at all...

We've got 60% staying at home atm.

We're allowed to be a bit more political on another forum but a lot of the dumber statements are on video.

Wait a few weeks and 9/11 happening every day the attack ads basically write themselves.

There's also precedent.

Herbert Hoover - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

But but but the economy! Won't someone think of the poor, defenseless economy?!

If human beings of US nationality actually behaved in a rational manner, this would not be as bad right now. But no, the states that are prime Spring Break locations continued to let all those students in just to make money off them, instead of say no Spring Break here. Now there are who knows how many sick college kids out there who took it home and spread it to family and friends. There are people who should be charged with manslaughter if they passed it on and someone died from their reckless behavior. It happens with other illnesses and diseases with no cure that cause death, so this should too.

 

[Zardnaar]

13 states still not locked down afaik.

Gonna be worse than Italy X5 IMHO.

Italy locked down sooner, better health system, had help from the EU etc.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

And we’re starting to see the other dominoes fall:

NYC paramedics are stretched so thin by the coronavirus they're being told to leave cardiac-arrest sufferers at home if they can't get a pulse at the scene

The mandate was handed down on Tuesday to deal with the influx of 911 calls that paramedics are receiving during the coronavirus outbreak.

www.businessinsider.com

This is one aspect of triage. People who might be saved under normal circumstances will die because the resources of the hospitals are already tied up saving others.

 

[Zardnaar]

Italy 2.0

Coronavirus: The young doctors being asked to play god

A harrowing account from a New York hospital which has become the epicentre of the epicentre.

www.bbc.com

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

As someone who said that things maybe weren't all that bad, let me just say that I was wrong.

Here in Japan, it almost seems like everyone is waiting for the other shoe to drop. Honestly, it hasn't been that bad here. I think we're somewhere in the neighborhood of 4000 cases. And, we've been dealing with this a bit longer than the West has. The question seems to be, why not? Why isn't Japan buried under the disease now? It's not like we're quarantining or taking any draconian measures.

Heck, we JUST banned travel into the country today. And Japanese nationals who enter the country are just now being tested and asked (not told, asked) to self quarantine.

Is it we just go lucky? Or is it something about Japanese culture that helps - the whole social distancing thing? No one knows. And, because no one knows, everyone is scared.

Like I said, it's like we're all waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I suspect the moderate social distancing in Japan was more effective than it was in the USA, probably due to the different levels of collectivism vs individualism in the two cultures. Both societies had their skeptics and scofflaws, but it’s a safe bet there were more of them per capita here.

 

[Imaculata]

Germany will be bad very soon IMO. Their case count cannot sustain their low deaths much longer.

Not to play armchair doctor, but I think Germany simply has a high count because they started testing for it really early. The more plentiful and accurate your testing, the more confirmed cases you'll have. But early detection goes along way to preventing further spread, and preventing deaths.

That said, I am really worried for the US, since they lack testing kits, so the number of infections is probably way higher than the news reports. And as for their estimated number of deaths... I fear that they may have to add an extra zero to that number.

 

[Hussar]

I suspect the moderate social distancing in Japan was more effective than it was in the USA, probably due to the different levels of collectivism vs individualism in the two cultures. Both societies had their skeptics and scofflaws, but it’s a safe bet there were more of them per capita here.

On the flipside though, we've got a population density that's practically insane. Trains in Tokyo are stile jammed to the rafters during rush hour. O.O