D&D and the rising pandemic

[Dannyalcatraz]

I'm less inclined at this point to believe anything positive regarding how Trump presents himself in public. He wants to look healthy while the cameras are pointed at him. I'm pretty sure he's been instructed as such by his team.

I understand the sentiment, but if you’re really sick with something affecting your cardio-pulmonary system, you’re not going to be walking normally. Thing is, as we know, C19 affects different people differently. The onset of symptoms can be gradual or as sudden as an avalanche.

So it’s possible Trump walked into the hospital normally, and a few hours later, be experiencing some alarming symptoms.

 

[Umbran]

He wants to look healthy while the cameras are pointed at him. I'm pretty sure he's been instructed as such by his team.

Yeah, yeah, I understand that.

The fact remains that he was able to do so. Puts a bit of an upper bound on how bad off he is.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Yeah, yeah, I understand that.

The fact remains that he was able to do so. Puts a bit of an upper bound on how bad off he is.

I agree with @Dannyalcatraz. He may have been fine going to the hospital, but this virus can quickly take a bad turn.

 

[Mallus]

Let's review what we know about the US President's health.

1. He has COVID-19.
2. On Friday he was taken to Walter Reed Medical Center.
3. He walked to and disembarked from Marine One under his own power. He was not in apparent physical distress.
4. He has, historically, gone to some lengths to portray his health as excellent.

Add all of these thing together and it's reasonable to believe a) there are serious concerns about the President experiencing a rapid decline, and more importantly b) the President acknowledges this, or perhaps even fears this, thus his willingness to leave the White House.

I imagine the conversation that convinced him to go went something like this: "Yes, Mr. President it looks bad if you go to the hospital. But you can walk to the chopper now. It will look a lot worse if you're wheeled out or carried out strapped to gurney tomorrow."

Also, here's an interesting article from the Atlantic about COVID spread, cluster patters, and the importance of backwards contract tracing: This Overlooked Variable Is the Key to the Pandemic.

 

[Garthanos]

4. He has, historically, gone to some lengths to portray his health as excellent.

And to pretend a trip to the hospital during which they put Pence on standby was just a "check up" so he is not inclined to fake being ill and more like the opposite.

 

[Umbran]

He may have been fine going to the hospital, but this virus can quickly take a bad turn.

Yes. That's probably why they took him there - not because he was bad a the time, but so that he'd be right there if/when it did go bad, instead of half an hour or more away from top-notch medical care.

However, I don't see any really solid sources saying that he was definitively on supportive oxygen, or the like. Until I see a rusted news source reported, I'm taking such claims with a grain of salt.

There is the added point that, really, knowing or not doesn't matter. He's now in a black box. He'll come out, or not. He'll be reasonably okay, or not. Until that resolves, it doesn't really impact us, nor can we impact it.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well he might get what he want and be president for life.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

There is the added point that, really, knowing or not doesn't matter. He's now in a black box. He'll come out, or not. He'll be reasonably okay, or not. Until that resolves, it doesn't really impact us, nor can we impact it.

Schrodinger’s President.

 

[billd91]

Schrodinger’s President.

Trouble is, we’ve been gaslit so many times by his administration that this is the normal state of things.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Schrodinger’s President.

I know that's meant as a jest, but that's actually pretty accurate to the situation. I don't think the chances of him dying are 50/50, but it's a high enough percent that I wouldn't be surprised with any outcome. We'll just have to check Twitter every hour or so to collapse the superposition.