D&D and the rising pandemic

[Dannyalcatraz]

Will the First Couple’s illness be evidence to them that C19 is real...but created in a lab as a weapon that has now been successfully deployed in the White House?

Damn it!

DeAnna Lorraine says Trump catching Covid could be considered an assassination attempt by China

The London Economic - Seth Rogan said she has "accomplished the tough task of being the dumbest montherf*cker out here". - Politics

www.thelondoneconomic.com

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Damn it!

DeAnna Lorraine says Trump catching Covid could be considered an assassination attempt by China

The London Economic - Seth Rogan said she has "accomplished the tough task of being the dumbest montherf*cker out here". - Politics

www.thelondoneconomic.com

 

[Eltab]

Damn it!

DeAnna Lorraine says Trump catching Covid could be considered an assassination attempt by China

The London Economic - Seth Rogan said she has "accomplished the tough task of being the dumbest montherf*cker out here". - Politics

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Recklessness or negligence more than attempted murder ... but times the tens of millions of cases (and counting) worldwide. There are plenty of people with reason to think dark thoughts at the Chinese leadership.

 

[ccs]

Well he might get what he want and be president for life.

A classic example of "Be carefull what you wish for"?

 

[Zardnaar]

A classic example of "Be carefull what you wish for"?

Yep. I think he'll be right. Mostly because of my inherent cynicism.

 

[Umbran]

Recklessness or negligence more than attempted murder ... but times the tens of millions of cases (and counting) worldwide. There are plenty of people with reason to think dark thoughts at the Chinese leadership.

That is some of the most egregious thinking I can imagine.

I mean, the argument is that China didn't control it, so they are at fault. But, every other nation on Earth had warning... but it is like only New Zealand has gotten a handle on it? China's at fault for failing to do what... basically nobody was able to do.

That's like sentencing someone to jail for failing to be able to single-handedly lift a car off an accident victim.

 

[Eltab]

That is some of the most egregious thinking I can imagine.

I mean, the argument is that China didn't control it, so they are at fault. But, every other nation on Earth had warning... but it is like only New Zealand has gotten a handle on it? China's at fault for failing to do what... basically nobody was able to do.

That's like sentencing someone to jail for failing to be able to single-handedly lift a car off an accident victim.

Go back and look at the articles describing how the virus got out of the city of Wuhan and where it popped up next. (Hint: international airport hub cities)
The contrast between this world-wide pandemic and the West African outbreak of Ebola - another very spreadable disease - is striking.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Go back and look at the articles describing how the virus got out of the city of Wuhan and where it popped up next. (Hint: international airport hub cities)

Any extremely contagious virus in the first bit of the pandemic will have more cases in the international airport hub cities than anywhere else. That's kind of how contagious diseases work, they go where the people go.

The contrast between this world-wide pandemic and the West African outbreak of Ebola - another very spreadable disease - is striking.

Ebola was very contagious, but wasn't airborne or nearly as contagious as Covid-19, was less/not contagious in the asymptomatic stage of having contracted it, and the Ebola-outbreak was easier to control than the current pandemic-causing virus.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I’ll just remind everyone of this:

Sneaky bastard!

Coronavirus Reportedly Detected in Wastewater Samples From March 2019

An unpublished study by Spanish virologists suggests the novel coronavirus has been around much longer than we thought, dating as far back as March 2019.

www.yahoo.com

To paraphrase, subsequent studies have revealed Covid-19 was circulating in Europe 9 months before the Wuhan outbreak occurred. We don’t know why it wasn’t causing problems like it has since then, but unless there was a significant mutation unique to the Wuhan outbreak that made it more dangerous, C19 was already circulating in humans. IOW, the pandemic itself was probably inevitable regardless of how China reacted.

(Maybe not as BAD a pandemic, but still unavoidable.)

Here’s the Reuters article referenced in the Yahoo report.

Coronavirus traces found in March 2019 sewage sample, Spanish study shows

Spanish virologists have found traces of the novel coronavirus in a sample of Barcelona waste water collected in March 2019, nine months before the COVID-19 disease was identified in China, the University of Barcelona said on Friday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Hussar]

Umm, more or less.

The people we don't know are infected is the problem the Authorities refuse to address in any meaningful manner. Widespread testing? Too hard or too expensive or can't get good enough tests or don't know where to start. Containment lines around hotspots (around NYC instead of RI, see above)? Horrors!
We just proved that universal lockdowns are not a meaningful response, due to collateral damage and because - contrast to say pioneer days - no man is a self-suffient island, we have to interact with each other to get the needs of life.

That's a very American view.

You need to start looking at the countries that are SUCCESSFUL, not utter failures, and emulate what they are doing.