D&D and the rising pandemic

[MarkB]

your complaint ignores the logistics of having enough nurses to inject people. Having enough doors and fences to organize recipients.

Sure, but all of that could have been organised well in advance of the vaccines becoming available. It's not as though the logistical requirements were a mystery before then.

 

[Umbran]

Does this lack of a plan here in the USA surprise you in any way?

Not in the slightest.

I was merely noting that lack of freezers was probably not the thing for us to be concerned about first.

 

[Umbran]

Sure, but all of that could have been organised well in advance of the vaccines becoming available. It's not as though the logistical requirements were a mystery before then.

Not a mystery... if you have experience in moving large numbers of people through a process. Make no mistake, vaccinating the entire country within a few months is no small feat of logistics. The like has not been attempted in a century. The planning required is massive... and wasn't done.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Not a mystery... if you have experience in moving large numbers of people through a process. Make no mistake, vaccinating the entire country within a few months is no small feat of logistics. The like has not been attempted in a century. The planning required is massive... and wasn't done.

Pretty much this. It’s another symptom of leadership failure.

While the 1st vaccine DOES have some esoteric requirements, and the 2nd is slightly better, the 3rd is standard fare as vaccines go, and other trials look promising. So transport and storage issues, while not insignificant, are shaping up to be relatively minor concerns.

The logistics of actually having the personnel to administer the injections is a different issue. Not any old schmoe can deliver a shot. They have to be trained professionals. They also have to be bonded in many states, and be HIPAA compliant. For some rural areas, unless they bus the recipients into areas to get injections (2 times in one month), they’re going to have to be shipped in, just like the vaccine itself, and that means food & lodging...for at least a month.

Given the...tumult...surrounding vaccination itself, there will have to be security provided to safeguard both the vaccine and healtcare professionals. The people providing said security will require the same accommodations as the health care workers.

Security requirements for equipment may also limit viable venues for mobile treatment clinics.

And since the Moderna vaccine (and probably others as well) requires a wait time of 15-30 minutes post injections to monitor for early-onset side effects like allergic reactions, you need to have sufficient space for people to congregate pre and post injections while maintaining social distancing. IOW, drive-through injection sites aren’t too likely.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Also, in case you missed it, someone is trolling the 5g chip conspiracy believers HARD:

Conspiracy theorists share schematic for “5G chip” they claim is implanted in COVID-19 vaccines – only it's actually for the Boss Metal Zone

As soon as it's your turn, you'll have op-amps and 1n4148 diodes injected straight into your bloodstream, apparently

www.guitarworld.com

This isn't some obscure piece of gear. This is a fairly common, mass-produced product that has been in the market for decades and achieved a certain amount of infamy in music circles. Literally hundreds of thousands if not millions of people recognize that circuit on sight.

Also, a veterinarian posted this picture showing a comparison between a vaccination needle, a meddle used for chipping animals and a ballpoint pen (for scale). The point: a chip would not fit in a vaccine needle, and most people would likely notice the unusually large syringe being used if a chip were actually being injected.

Of note, someone used this picture to try to debunk the chip conspiracy theory. Unfortunately, the attempt was unsuccessful.

 

[Umbran]

Of note, someone used this picture to try to debunk the chip conspiracy theory. Unfortunately, the attempt was unsuccessful.

Unfotunately, all the conspiracy nuts have to do is say, "No, those aren't for microchips. Microchips are microscopic! Duh!" and they are off to the races.

 

[CleverNickName]

It's so dumb it makes my head hurt. Nevermind that nanotechnology is years away from being able to do what the conspiracy theorists fear it will do. That's a whole other topic; these people are next level paranoid.

I mean, why are they so worried about having a microchip track them everywhere they go, and log everything they do? They already paid Samsung or Apple hundreds of dollars for a real, tangible microchip that tracks everywhere they go, that lets them willingly log everything they do onto numerous social media platforms in real-time. Seems like their worry is misplaced.

 

[Umbran]

I mean, why are they so worried about having a microchip track them everywhere they go, and log everything they do?

Honest answer? A combination of a feeling of lack of control of their world, plus the Dunning-Kruger effect. The idea that you at least know the secret helps soothe the first. The second means you don't know that secret is stupid.

 

[Ryujin]

It's so dumb it makes my head hurt. Nevermind that nonotechnology is years away from being able to do what the conspiracy theorists fear it will do. That's a whole other topic; these people are next level paranoid.

I mean, why are they so worried about having a microchip track them everywhere they go, and log everything they do? They already paid Samsung or Apple hundreds of dollars for a real, tangible microchip that tracks everywhere they go, that lets them willingly log everything they do onto numerous social media platforms in real-time. Seems like their worry is misplaced.

They already give more information that that Samsung device provides, with every post they make to social media. South Park did an episode on that particular dichotomy.

 

[Garthanos]

Honest answer? A combination of a feeling of lack of control of their world, plus the Dunning-Kruger effect. The idea that you at least know the secret helps soothe the first. The second means you don't know that secret is stupid.

It is also a group membership thing. I call it the I want to feel special and in the know group but you are right there is a desire for things to be under somebody's control even if it has to be some evil impossibility. With a tad of desire for life to be exciting in a way they understand and reality is too complex.