D&D and the rising pandemic

[Umbran]

Basically if you're not on welfare you don't get counted.

In the US, we don't have a mechanism to accurately know who is working or who is not, except through the unemployment insurance system. If you aren't collecting unemployment, we don't know if you are working, have decided to retire, or have taken up some other activity such that you don't intend to work.

Unfortunately, the unemployment insurance system misses some types of workers - like self-employed folks, and many cash-basis workers. For another, a person can only collect unemployment for so much time before it cuts off.

So, yes, we under-count. We have some estimates of how much we miss by, but, we simply don't have a way to check every person, constantly.

 

[Zardnaar]

In the US, we don't have a mechanism to accurately know who is working or who is not, except through the unemployment insurance system. If you aren't collecting unemployment, we don't know if you are working, have decided to retire, or have taken up some other activity such that you don't intend to work.

Unfortunately, the unemployment insurance system misses some types of workers - like self-employed folks, and many cash-basis workers. For another, a person can only collect unemployment for so much time before it cuts off.

So, yes, we under-count. We have some estimates of how much we miss by, but, we simply don't have a way to check every person, constantly.

I'm not 100% sure how it's counted here but I think it's based on welfare.

We have universal system but not everyone qualifies eg if you lose your job but your partner doesn't you're unemployed but won't get counted afaik.

It's not perfect or 100% fair.

 

[Imaculata]

The grandmother of a close friend of mine just got diagnosed with Covid. She is one of the sweetest people in the world that I know, but she also has astma, so that doesn't bode well for her. She is suffering from a lot of headaches, coughing, and has trouble breathing. I really hope she pulls through.

 

[Zardnaar]

Never really looked into the ins and outs much until this week for qurantine.


Short video. Living the high life in a 4.5 star hotel.

The nitty gritty.

With tourism essentially collapsed (internal tourism, a few leftovers from last year, people stuck here and a trickle of foreigners) the government is using hotels for qurantine. 100 000 people have made it through qurantine.

How it works.

You arrive in the country and you get escorted from the plane to a bus by the military (no guns). You get bussed to a hotel, in some cases they may fly you to a different city such as Christchurch or Rotorua. You don't get the choice of hotel.

You get to spend 14 days in qurantine. You get tested for Covid at least twice day 3 and 11 afaik (could be wrong on the exact day).

If you break the rules your stay gets reset back to day 1. If you really break the rules (break out of the qurantine) the police come day hi and you get to do qurantine as a guest of her majesty's in one of our fine prisons. Out of 100k 9 people decided to try this all got caught.

You're allowed to exercise in the carpark. There is catering so you can pick from a preselected menu. From this video they're eating better than I am.

They ring you up each day for a chat to see if you're doing alright and if you need anything. Helps break the boredom I suppose.

Friends and family can visit but you have to stay separated and talk through the fence. They can drop off food, video game consoles etc.

Alcohol is provided I think it's something like a six pack or a bottle of wine or two per day. More than I drink anyway (about a six pack/week if that).

The cost is mostly free the government pays for it unless you leave the country and return in 3 months eg a holiday. Then it's around $3000 ($2000 USD) odd dollars. You can apply for an exemption eg family emergency in Australia. They're not so willing to pay for holidays.

Bit of a crapshoot to get back in as well. Been some hiccups along the way, outbreak last August as Covid slipped through. Qurantine also wasn't run so well early on but they brought the military in.

Trending on social media here.

US tourists on expiring visa desperate to stay until they can get vaccinated

The self-sustaining visitors fear for their lives if they're sent back to their virus-riddled homeland.

i.stuff.co.nz

General opinion is let them stay if they can support themselves.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Fighting C19 in America is going to take a looooooooooooooong time.

Dodger Stadium's COVID-19 vaccination site temporarily shut down after protesters gather at entrance

The demonstrators included members of anti-vaccine and far-right groups.

www.latimes.com

A very loooooooooooooong time.

Iowa Democrat wears jeans on House floor to protest lack of mask mandate

House Speaker Pat Grassley has said he can't require lawmakers to wear masks on the House floor, but Democrats have pointed out that jeans are banned.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Umbran]

A very loooooooooooooong time.

It will, but it doesn't have to.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

It will, but it doesn't have to.

I’m betting on 1 part benign mutation and one part behavioral changes. Maybe a bit of a silver lining with C19 having burned its way through the Indian population that HASN’T had their immune systems tempered by the endemic pathogens.

 

[Zardnaar]

I’m betting on 1 part benign mutation and one part behavioral changes. Maybe a bit of a silver lining with C19 having burned its way through the Indian population that HASN’T had their immune systems tempered by the endemic pathogens.

In just over a month around 25 million vaccinated.

I assume that can be ramped up and/or vaccine production needs to be ramped up.

Looking at a year maybe to get to 240 million at the current rate (which should speed up).

70% is here immunity?

We're assuming 2021 is a washout for the most part borders closed until Jan 2022 minimum.

Vaccine was never gonna be the miracle get back to normal in 3 months.

Positives got vaccine faster than anticipated.

27.5 million vaccinated according to Washington Post.

 

[Zardnaar]

Emergency rations sent to USA. Friend in Houston father died in Mexico City of Covid.

She said they're basically they're letting old people die. She knew he was doomed once he was admitted.

Gave them a few weeks and daughter and hubby like NZ chocolate.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I’m sure the gesture will be appreciated.