D&D and the rising pandemic

[Not a Hobbit]

Reports from across the USA indicates that natural selection IS starting to sort things out in a statistically significant way. Hospitals are reporting 95%+- of all new C19 hospitalizations and deaths are of unvaccinated people. And that has been correlated with states and counties that are Republican led and/or rural, because they have lower vaccination rates coupled with high levels of vaccine hesitancy.

IOW, the people getting sick and dying are in places where vaccination rates are low, are likely to remain so, and are least able to cope with spikes. With Delta on the rise, it’s very possible such regions could face crippling spikes of dangerous & lethal infections…in the areas responsible for huge portions of the national food supply.

Never mind.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Damn. Don’t put your masks away yet. The WHO is recommending a return to mask mandates because of Delta.

‘Bringing back mask mandate is a good idea’: doctor on Delta variant

The World Health Organization’s decision to encourage those who are fully vaccinated to wear masks as a result of the highly transmissible delta variant is ‘a good idea,’ according to University of Arizona College of Medicine-Phoenix’s Dr. Shad Marvasti.

finance.yahoo.com

Here’s why:

Preliminary findings by Israeli health officials found that about half of adults infected by the Delta variant in the country were fully vaccinated, the Wall Street Journal reported, and as it stands now, the Delta variant is likely causing about 90% of new infections in Israel.

 

[Imaculata]

Called it!

The Netherlands lifted mask requirements, and of course this means everyone immediately stops wearing masks. But not everyone is even fully vaccinated yet, and covid variants have already been spotted. So I've been keeping my mask on, and resumed all other covid safety measures.

But it seems that much like when this all started, people are mostly wearing masks because they have to, and not to protect themselves or others.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

TBH, despite being fully vaccinated, I’ve continued to mask up. Partly out of concern for a breakthrough infection. Partly to ease Mom’s concerns. Partly to lead by example.

Now it looks like concern #1 is more concrete.

 

[Zardnaar]

Got a text message today saying I'm in the next group. Phrased like "our records show".

I guess my records from the doctor or pharmacy went to the local health board and I qualify for group 3 along with my wife's cousin who is 21.

So apparently I'll get invited for vaccine sometime in July. If I have a choice late July or early July is better.

Assuming we have vaccines they're about to run out same day more doses are scheduled to arrive.

 

[CapnZapp]

Damn. Don’t put your masks away yet. The WHO is recommending a return to mask mandates because of Delta.

‘Bringing back mask mandate is a good idea’: doctor on Delta variant

The World Health Organization’s decision to encourage those who are fully vaccinated to wear masks as a result of the highly transmissible delta variant is ‘a good idea,’ according to University of Arizona College of Medicine-Phoenix’s Dr. Shad Marvasti.

finance.yahoo.com

Here’s why:

Just a general observation - statistics is hard.

If everybody is vaccinated, then of course many cases will be vaccinated people. The question the quote does not address is: how many cases? (Per Capita)

 

[Umbran]

If everybody is vaccinated, then of course many cases will be vaccinated people. The question the quote does not address is: how many cases? (Per Capita)

Google's vax stats say about 57% of Israeli citizens are fully vaccinated, and about 61% have had at least one dose of vaccine. The Population is about 9 million people.

In May, in Israel, the 7 day average number of new cases was below 50. As of June 27, it had tripled to nearly 150 per day.

The article notes that half the cases they see are vaccinated people. If the vaccine was fully effective, that would be zero. It is was completely ineffective, it would be around 60%. So, vaccinated people are not seeing a whole lot of protection.

This is possibly due to their own behavior - vaccinated folks thinking they are perfectly safe getting themselves strong exposures that blow past their vaccine protections. Thus the advice to mask up again.

 

[Maxperson]

TBH, despite being fully vaccinated, I’ve continued to mask up. Partly out of concern for a breakthrough infection. Partly to ease Mom’s concerns. Partly to lead by example.

Now it looks like concern #1 is more concrete.

The mask doesn't help you with #1, though, unless everyone is wearing one. Masks do very little to stop Covid from coming in, outside of the N95 masks anyway. The primary use of masks is to stop/slow outgoing droplets laden with virus.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Google's vax stats say about 57% of Israeli citizens are fully vaccinated, and about 61% have had at least one dose of vaccine. The Population is about 9 million people.

In May, in Israel, the 7 day average number of new cases was below 50. As of June 27, it had tripled to nearly 150 per day.

The article notes that half the cases they see are vaccinated people. If the vaccine was fully effective, that would be zero. It is was completely ineffective, it would be around 60%. So, vaccinated people are not seeing a whole lot of protection.

Anyone know what vaccine is in use there? That seems--out of keeping--with data from other places, even about Delta.

 

[Umbran]

Anyone know what vaccine is in use there? That seems--out of keeping--with data from other places, even about Delta.

The Lancet says they use Pfizer.