D&D and the rising pandemic

[Maxperson]

The Delta Variant seems to hit the partially vaccinated much harder than fully vaccinated people. I wonder what percentage of vaccinated Delta victims in Israel had only one dose. Below are the numbers from England.

"Out of the 92,029 total infections attributed to delta, almost 20,000 were recorded in people who had received one dose of a Covid vaccine (both before and following 21 days after a first dose) and 7,235 infections were confirmed in people who had received two doses."

Young, unvaccinated, over 50 or just had one dose? You're most at risk from the Covid delta variant

Data has been released in England showing just how far the delta variant has spread — and which groups are most vulnerable to the mutation.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Thomas Shey]

Well, that's just really odd then. Unless the "new cases" is counting anyone who tests positive at all, in which case, well, I haven't heard any of the vaccines being noted as preventing that completely; they just keep the viral count down to the point its not particularly meaningful to the person involved (which is why vaccinated individuals can still be infectious, though usually much less so).

 

[Umbran]

Well, that's just really odd then. Unless the "new cases" is counting anyone who tests positive at all

Yes, we are talking "cases", not "hospitalizations" or the like. The effectiveness of the vaccines was primarily tested against "getting sick", meaning showing serious symptoms. So, it may be those cases are people who are themselves perfectly safe.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Yeah, at that point that's not ultimately that surprising, given everything.

 

[Imaculata]

Seems wise to continue disinfecting your hands after going outside, avoiding large crowds, and maintaining social distance.

 

[Zardnaar]

Seems wise to continue disinfecting your hands after going outside, avoiding large crowds, and maintaining social distance.

Turns out it's good for everything else as well.

Mostly no flu two years running.

 

[Mirtek]

In Europe there's argument that mixing might even be better for resulting protection, due to it causing recognition of a wider range of spike proteins.

AFAIK there's not yet officially recommend to mix but it's already not seen as being problematic

 

[Thomas Shey]

Turns out it's good for everything else as well.

Mostly no flu two years running.

A number of sources I've seen suggest that the frequent masking hasn't hurt here, either.

 

[GreyLord]

With the breakthrough cases in Israel, do we know how serious they are in those that are vaccinated but still getting the Virus.

That's something I'd be extremely interested in knowing. Whether vaccinations makes it so the viral load is reduced to the point where you have almost no symptoms (a day or two with a runny nose...maybe) to mild symptoms (not so good, this includes the loss of taste and smell) to serious symptoms (hospitalization).

If it is the first, I would feel a lot safer as the area I live in is very anti-vax at the moment with probably 30% of the population being vaccinated. My and our group of gaming friends are all vaccinated at this point (and planning on gaming over the next week in person for the FIRST time in a LONG while (indeed, since the beginning of this thread), but considering the others around me in my community, I am very concerned about what I should or should not look at trying to do now that I am vaccinated.

 

[Thomas Shey]

It can reach any of those, though serious symptoms among the vaccinated are very rare--but the Law of Large Numbers applies.