D&D and the rising pandemic

[Umbran]

And before that, they investigate based on less. That's how they find the rest................or not if it doesn't exist, but they don't know until they do the in depth investigation.

So... what's the goal of this investigation? The scientific relevance is, in the short to medium term, minimal. It will not actually lead us to better understanding of SARS-COV-2. It will not generate better outcomes for patients. It will not change the socio-economic situation in the world caused by the impact of the pandemic on our not-terribly-resilient systems.

I restate - this investigation looks like a blame game. For that, we need to consider the costs vs the benefits. If we find it came from the lab, the costs will include increased violence against out own citizens of Asian descent, and increased tension between China and the US. The benefit needs to be worth beatings, murders, and increase of consumer costs for goods pretty much across the board.

Better be a really good benefit.

 

[Ryujin]

So... what's the goal of this investigation? The scientific relevance is, in the short to medium term, minimal. It will not actually lead us to better understanding of SARS-COV-2. It will not generate better outcomes for patients. It will not change the socio-economic situation in the world caused by the impact of the pandemic on our not-terribly-resilient systems.

I restate - this investigation looks like a blame game. For that, we need to consider the costs vs the benefits. If we find it came from the lab, the costs will include increased violence against out own citizens of Asian descent, and increased tension between China and the US. The benefit needs to be worth beatings, murders, and increase of consumer costs for goods pretty much across the board.

Better be a really good benefit.

Indeed. As I read your first paragraph I was framing a reply that read like the second paragraph, which you had obviously made redundant

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Better be a really good benefit.

I can't imagine what that benefit could be.

Meanwhile, efforts could be better spent figuring out how to prevent this sort of thing from happening again. One thing that would help is better communication (which I would argue pointing fingers works directly against that goal).

 

[Umbran]

I can't imagine what that benefit could be.

Meanwhile, efforts could be better spent figuring out how to prevent this sort of thing from happening again. One thing that would help is better communication (which I would argue pointing fingers works directly against that goal).

Yeah. Greater cooperation, communication, and transparency in the world medical community focused on infectious disease would help no matter the source of covid-19, so I'd expect it to be a pretty good target.

 

[Ryujin]

I can't imagine what that benefit could be.

Meanwhile, efforts could be better spent figuring out how to prevent this sort of thing from happening again. One thing that would help is better communication (which I would argue pointing fingers works directly against that goal).

At this point any perceived 'benefit' would seem to be negative. A couple of days ago I was watching a pretty well known Canadian magazine/investigative journalism show called "W5" (think "60 Minutes", in US terms, but tends to concentrate on a single issue for the entire programme). They were specifically discussing incidents of anti-Asian racism, in Canada, related to Covid-19. Vancouver, a city not really known for racist incidents and with a high Asian population, is statistically 'leading' Canada in racist incidents against Asians. Vancouver is very "Left Coast", so think in terms of a Canadian Seattle. Trying to place blame only serves to heighten this idiotic racism.

 

[Maxperson]

At this point any perceived 'benefit' would seem to be negative. A couple of days ago I was watching a pretty well known Canadian magazine/investigative journalism show called "W5" (think "60 Minutes", in US terms, but tends to concentrate on a single issue for the entire programme). They were specifically discussing incidents of anti-Asian racism, in Canada, related to Covid-19. Vancouver, a city not really known for racist incidents and with a high Asian population, is statistically 'leading' Canada in racist incidents against Asians. Vancouver is very "Left Coast", so think in terms of a Canadian Seattle. Trying to place blame only serves to heighten this idiotic racism.

Better to bury the truth and capitulate to the racists, than to seek the truth and fight the racism I suppose. For some I suppose it's all about blame. For others it's about seeking the truth. Hell, if I wanted to find ways to blame China, there's a lot going on worth blame. Rights violations, concentration camps, genocide... I don't need a virus to lay blame on China if that's what I want to do.

 

[Imaculata]

See the post by Dannyalcatraz. It was a good one. People get convicted of everything up to and including murder based on nothing but circumstantial evidence.

Sometimes wrongfully, when the circumstantial evidence is weak... which it is for the lab hypothesis.

 

[Maxperson]

Sometimes wrongfully, when the circumstantial evidence is weak... which it is for the lab hypothesis.

Okay, but so what. Nobody here is suggesting we convict the lab on this evidence.

 

[Ryujin]

Better to bury the truth and capitulate to the racists, than to seek the truth and fight the racism I suppose. For some I suppose it's all about blame. For others it's about seeking the truth. Hell, if I wanted to find ways to blame China, there's a lot going on worth blame. Rights violations, concentration camps, genocide... I don't need a virus to lay blame on China if that's what I want to do.

You can seek the truth, while simultaneously not being inflammatory about it. The way that the issue is being dealt with, currently, smacks of witch hunt to me.

 

[Maxperson]

You can seek the truth, while simultaneously not being inflammatory about it. The way that the issue is being dealt with, currently, smacks of witch hunt to me.

I agree. We should be seeking the truth in ways that aren't inflammatory. Unfortunately, politics is always involved at that level.