D&D and the rising pandemic

[Ryujin]

He probably doesn't even actually have it. Just wants to brag about beating it and that it's "not a big deal."

Unfortunately this presents as a very real possibility, given the massive number of falsehoods that he has already spouted.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I believe Trump will take every opportunity to brag about defeating the disease and use himself as an argument to further downplay the very real pandemic.

Your arguments are of course sound and logical, but that won't stop him.

The possibility of a fully recovered Trump that insinuates only Liberals die from this conspiracy makes me shake my head...

It depends on the nature of his recovery. If he’s a “long hauler“ or has things go wrong like myocarditis, lung damage, etc., he won’t really have anything to crow about.

 

[Eltab]

You mean like locking the infected up for the good of the rest of us?

That is what a quarantine is.

 

[Eltab]

If Trump easily kicks the disease that would be a disaster for logic- and evidence based responses.

This would be more evidence to add to the existing shelf-full.
When improved techniques become available, shall we spurn them because "that's not the way we've been doing it"?

 

[Eltab]

I think this needs to be revisited.

The people we know are infected don't go free. They self-quarantine.

Umm, more or less.

The people we don't know are infected is the problem the Authorities refuse to address in any meaningful manner. Widespread testing? Too hard or too expensive or can't get good enough tests or don't know where to start. Containment lines around hotspots (around NYC instead of RI, see above)? Horrors!
We just proved that universal lockdowns are not a meaningful response, due to collateral damage and because - contrast to say pioneer days - no man is a self-suffient island, we have to interact with each other to get the needs of life.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Ehhh, all we’ve proven is that, when people don‘t take the basic precautions, the advanced responses are less effective than they could be.

 

[Mallus]

If the US had the case- and death counts we did in the Spring, I could almost see this news as a ploy, a legit October Surprise. But now? With over 200,000 dead and no end in sight, heading into flu season? “I beat it in week, it’s no big deal” won’t go over well with the voters the Trump campaign is aggressively targeting, ie suburban voters like the ones in Montgomery County here in PA.

Also, sending thoughts and prayers to the White House. “Arioch! Arioch! Blood and souls...”

 

[Umbran]

He probably doesn't even actually have it. Just wants to brag about beating it and that it's "not a big deal."

1) Hope Hicks, and at least two other cases have shown up in the White House Plus the President of Notre Dame after attending a Rose Garden Ceremony with the president without masks, and the RNC Chair who was with the president last week have tested positive. While that all could still be coincidental, it starts looking less so the more cases show up.

2) So, he's taking himself off the campaign trail a month from the election, and bringing focus on how badly we've been handling the pandemic under his leadership... so he can brag?

 

[billd91]

He probably doesn't even actually have it. Just wants to brag about beating it and that it's "not a big deal."

He probably has it - there are too many close calls for too long. He couldn't dodge a COVID-19 bullet forever. However, that still doesn't preclude him from drawing the wrong conclusions if he ends up with a mild case and recovers in short time. If that happens, he'll try to leverage it as much as he can no matter how many other people have died.

That said, his credibility is questionable, so I can't shut the door on it being bogus yet. But it might not just be a gambit for him to use for his electoral gain. It could also be spun into a means of saving face in the event of impending loss. Defeat would no longer be, "his fault" as he might see it. Rather, he got sick - circumstances defeated him, not Biden.

It is unfortunate his credibility is so bad since it breeds this degree of cynicism.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

It is unlikely that he will take hydroxychloroquine. Lack of evidence that it is effective aside, the FDA has cautioned against its use for covid-19, due to its increased risk of heart arrhythmia, blood disorders, and liver and kidney damage. Giving such a drug to an overweight 74 year old world leader who may have had a cardiac or stroke event in the past few years would be highly irresponsible medicine, and likely be a career ender if anything goes wrong.

He already was taking hydroxychloroquine earlier this year. If he still supports using it, which he hasn't made any remarks saying that he is against it, I don't see the possibility of him taking it being completely out the window for him.