D&D FAQ gets it wrong?

[Vyvyan Basterd]

This says your spells have a higher Caster Level. That's what it says.

It would seem that when you cast a spell it gets the higher caster level, but you yourself do not have a higher caster level for all purposes.

At least that's the way it is written.

Where is your quote of Practiced Spellcaster coming from? That is not the wording in Complete Arcane where I quoted from above. The quote you provided is not part of the text of the feat in CArc. If the feat actually was printed the way you quoted I would agree, but that is NOT a valid quote you provided.

 

[Artoomis]

Where is your quote of Practiced Spellcaster coming from? That is not the wording in Complete Arcane where I quoted from above. The quote you provided is not part of the text of the feat in CArc. If the feat actually was printed the way you quoted I would agree, but that is NOT a valid quote you provided.

It was earlier in this discussion - it appears to not be the actual language, after all.

Not having the book, I must rely upon others.

If it really says "YOUR caster level for the chosen spellcasting class increases by 4," then that seems pretty clear.

Sorry, I have to rely upon others to quote the feat.

 

[Rystil Arden]

It was earlier in this discussion - it appears to not be the actual language, after all.

Not having the book, I must rely upon others.

If it really says "YOUR caster level for the chosen spellcasting class increases by 4," then that seems pretty clear.

Sorry, I have to rely upon others to quote the feat.

I've got it in front of me, and it indeed says both

Your caster level for the chosen spellcasting class increases by 4

as well as

This feat does not affect your spells per day or spells known. It increases your caster level only, which would help you penetrate spell resistance and increase the duration and other effects of your spells.

I don't know where that guy you quoted got his quote, actually.

 

[Vyvyan Basterd]

This feat does not affect your spells per day or spells known. It increases your caster level only, which would help you penetrate spell resistance and increase the duration and other effects of your spells.

This passage of the feat's text is where I think the ambiguity stems. Is the second half of the last sentence definitive or an example of how the increased caster level helps you?

 

[RigaMortus2]

Unfortunately the Practiced Spellcaster feat cannot aid you to qualify for a PrC. Why?



Note that the +4 bonus is only for the spells you cast from the specified class. It does not increase your caster level unless you are casting a spell from your class.

May I ask where you got this quote from?

 

[wildstarsreach]

From PS:

"For example, a human 5th-level sorcerer/3rd-level fighter who selects this feat would increase his sorcerer caster level from 5th to 8th."

Clearly the Caster Level of this PC is 8th. The feat does not limit what benefits this increased caster level applies to and it definately does not state that it only increase your spell's caster level (which it wouldn't since SPELLS don't have a Caster Level).

There is more than just the spellcasting. Your character only has the effect of the saves and hp of the sorcerer level 5 exclusive of the 3 fighter levels.

The feat makes your spells more effective.

To assume that you can take 1 level of wizard, then take 4 levels of fighter, have Practiced Spellcaster and then say that you are a caster level 5 to qualify for a PrC that requires caster level of 5, is wrong in spirit. I understand that you are finding people that are giving you what you want in interpretation. That does not mean that this is right. I as a DM would rule against you. You are finding a cheesy way around the rules and I think violating the spirit in which it was created. Just because you want something doesn't mean you should have it.

I mean no offense to you personally.

If you were trying to become a Prc, you would have to have a teacher to teach the basics of the PrC. The teacher would find you lacking at this point and say come back when you have learned more ie gained more experience levels.

You have the ruling you want and I as a responsibible DM counter with maintaining DM perceived game balance.

 

[Rystil Arden]

There is more than just the spellcasting. Your character only has the effect of the saves and hp of the sorcerer level 5 exclusive of the 3 fighter levels.

The feat makes your spells more effective.

To assume that you can take 1 level of wizard, then take 4 levels of fighter, have Practiced Spellcaster and then say that you are a caster level 5 to qualify for a PrC that requires caster level of 5, is wrong in spirit. I understand that you are finding people that are giving you what you want in interpretation. That does not mean that this is right. I as a DM would rule against you. You are finding a cheesy way around the rules and I think violating the spirit in which it was created. Just because you want something doesn't mean you should have it.

I mean no offense to you personally.

If you were trying to become a Prc, you would have to have a teacher to teach the basics of the PrC. The teacher would find you lacking at this point and say come back when you have learned more ie gained more experience levels.

You have the ruling you want and I as a responsibible DM counter with maintaining DM perceived game balance.

See, I disagree with you. If the PrC had meant to require a 5th-level Wizard with 3rd-level spells, it would have had a requirement of 'casts 3rd-level Arcane spells'. Besides, the player is likely weakening herself anyway, as an Arcane PrC is likely to give her +spellcasting at some or all of the levels, in which case she would probably wish she had the four additional Wizard levels instead of Fighter.

 

[wildstarsreach]

If you are going to quote RAW or customer service in that they are giving you different rulings than we are necessarily seeing, why don't you put the link or cut/paste the e-mail you've received. This would give me a more information to possibly make a better decision that might agree with you.

 

[Rystil Arden]

If you are going to quote RAW or customer service in that they are giving you different rulings than we are necessarily seeing, why don't you put the link or cut/paste the e-mail you've received. This would give me a more information to possibly make a better decision that might agree with you.

Dude, she (I think 'she'--the custserve e-mail said it was responding to 'Kelly') already did that in post 42

 

[Hypersmurf]

To assume that you can take 1 level of wizard, then take 4 levels of fighter, have Practiced Spellcaster and then say that you are a caster level 5 to qualify for a PrC that requires caster level of 5, is wrong in spirit.

How do you feel about Item Creation feats?

If this character at 6th level wanted to take Craft Magic Arms and Armor, do you feel he qualifies? The prerequisite is Caster Level 5, and his caster level is 5 (or 6, if he took another wizard level).

-Hyp.