D&D (2024) D&D species article

[Argyle King]

The moral of the story is the HALF-ELF and HALF-ORC as separate races are toast.

Perhaps
...or it could be taken as subjectively selective DEI that marginalizes the life experiences of some of the audience.

Overall, my own subjective opinion is that the 5e24 approach to species and background leaves a lot to be desired and is a step in the wrong direction. While that is simply my own perception, the results of my insight check reveal that I am not necessarily alone in thinking that.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

None of those are mixed species.

Please read the context of my post.

 

[Scribe]

Please read the context of my post.

I guess I didnt follow, no worries.

 

[Charlaquin]

I don't recall ever having visited The Thain's Book, so thanks for providing your source, but I'm curious, what do you mean by "no longer canon"?

I should rephrase; it’s defunct and not well-archived.

 

[Clint_L]

Perhaps
...or it could be taken as subjectively selective DEI that marginalizes the life experiences of some of the audience.

The "half-X" "races" are going precisely because that language and way of looking at people is marginalizing IRL. Claiming the opposite is...well, okay. Anyway, it's gone from the 2024 rules and that's a good thing, IMO. People can do what they want at their own tables, including using the old rules.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

I'll just note that as I am running a game using the new Goliath, who happens to be a Barbarian, they can really cover ground. 35 base + 10 fast movement + 10 from getting Large, can basically jump + reach to pull themselves to the top of your average house...

Meanwhile, none of the players cared about dwarves getting tremorsense, because it's a DM-may-I ability. Why even pick something like that, when you could pick something that just works.

 

[Clint_L]

I'll just note that as I am running a game using the new Goliath, who happens to be a Barbarian, they can really cover ground. 35 base + 10 fast movement + 10 from getting Large, can basically jump + reach to pull themselves to the top of your average house...

Meanwhile, none of the players cared about dwarves getting tremorsense, because it's a DM-may-I ability. Why even pick something like that, when you could pick something that just works.

How is tremorsense a "DM-may-I" ability?

Tremorsense. A creature with tremorsense can detect and pinpoint the origin of vibrations within a specific radius, provided that the creature and the source of the vibrations are in contact with the same ground or substance.

Edit: tremorsense is a pretty amazing ability. You can make whole builds around it.

 

[jmartkdr2]

We have people already complaining that the 2024 species are bland and lifeless. To do a system where half the species block is a series of different "feat" options that could be mixed and matched, they would need to completely redesign every single aspect of the species. You couldn't use the existing options in any way, shape, or form.

Is it theoritically possible for someone to write a game that way? Sure, like you said it happened, but you can't design it and keep how the species have worked in 5e this entire time. Because they have never been designed to be broken apart, mixed-and-matched like that proposes.

Not to be that guy but... Pathfinder 2e did that (kinda, via versatile heritages and a feat.)

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

How is tremorsense a "DM-may-I" ability?

You already quoted the relevant part. Same surface. In dwarves' case, that same surface has to be stone. They couldn't just give them tremorsense that just works, no.

Instead, you need to make your GM specify whether any building you step into is made of stone, whether wood flooring would prevent you sensing any tremors through the stone under it, and if so then whether people sitting on a chair would also prevent tremors, whether people lying on a thick rug would prevent tremors, whether this floor's stone pillar is considered same surface with the upper floor's stone floor, whether people standing still emit tremors, whether you touching stone but a few feet away it being lava stone are considered different surfaces, whether the room behind the door is considered same surface with the room you're in now when there is 2-inch wooden step between them, etc

It is nothing but asking the DM how your ability actually works.

 

[Argyle King]

The "half-X" "races" are going precisely because that language and way of looking at people is marginalizing IRL. Claiming the opposite is...well, okay. Anyway, it's gone from the 2024 rules and that's a good thing, IMO. People can do what they want at their own tables, including using the old rules.

I've explained my viewpoint with previous comments. This upcoming change is something that I feel marginalizes an experience with which I can relate.

I understand that you have decided that -from your point of view- it does not marginalize the experiences to which I can relate.

I agree that people can choose to use a different set of rules than the ones being sold as 5e24.