D&D Wargaming *ARMIES OF EVIL*

[The Goblin King]

Okay, I tried to puzzle out UKs document but it is too dense for me. I don't understand how to calculate some things. Forget about the level of Barbarian for right now.

Feral Bugbear
Medium Size = +0.0
Monstrous Humanoid = +0.2
Three Hit Dice = +1.8
Problem here as the template states that the hit die changes to d10s. How do you calculate that?
Also, Move should be 40 feet a round. The only cost it gives is if I double the speed. How do I figure a +10 feet increase?
+9 Natural AC = +0.9
two 1d8 claw attacks = +0.5 and +0.25 for the first and second one? I didn't get how to price attacks.
Fast Healing 2 = +0.15
Ability scores ( +8 Str, +4 Con, -4 Int, +2 Wis, -2 Cha) = +0.8
Improved Grab = +0.2
What is the cost of the racial +4 bonus to Move Silently?

Sorry for the problems.

 

[Pyrex]

Don't worry about trying to calculate the CR of the bugbear, the doc already lists it at 2.5.

From the Half-Dragon template, the 'Improved Hit Die Type' is 0.2CR.

If .2 is double-speed, increasing by 1/3 should be .07.

The two claw attacks aren't iterative, they're both at full bonus. A d8 avg's to 4.5, so the cost of the 2 d8 claw attacks is .9

Skills are .02/pt, so +4 to MS is .08

Total:
Improved Hit Die: .2
Speed Increase +10': .07
+9 Natural Armor: .9
2 Claws @ d8: .9
Fast Heal 2: .15
Stat Boost: .8
Imp Grab: .2
+4 to MS: .08

Total: +3.3 CR

Feral Bugbear = 2.5(bugbear) + 3.3(Feral) = 5.8 CR

 

[The Goblin King]

Don't worry about trying to calculate the CR of the bugbear, the doc already lists it at 2.5.

From the Half-Dragon template, the 'Improved Hit Die Type' is 0.2CR.

If .2 is double-speed, increasing by 1/3 should be .07.

The two claw attacks aren't iterative, they're both at full bonus. A d8 avg's to 4.5, so the cost of the 2 d8 claw attacks is .9

Skills are .02/pt, so +4 to MS is .08

Total:
Improved Hit Die: .2
Speed Increase +10': .07
+9 Natural Armor: .9
2 Claws @ d8: .9
Fast Heal 2: .15
Stat Boost: .8
Imp Grab: .2
+4 to MS: .08

Total: +3.3 CR

Feral Bugbear = 2.5(bugbear) + 3.3(Feral) = 5.8 CR

Thanks, I think I understand a little better now. I had tried to add them both so the attribute boost should be +0.2 for just the feral tempate. The +4 to Move Silently is from the Bugbear.

Feral Bugbear = 2.5(bugbear) + 1.9(Feral) = 4.4CR

 

[Pyrex]

How do you get to 1.9? Now that I've got my book here's what I find...

Darkvision: .2 (0 for bugbear)
Improved Hit Die: .2
Speed Increase +10': .07
+6 Natural Armor: .6 (.3 for a bugbear)
2 Claws @ d8: .9
Fast Heal 2: .15
Stat Boost: .2
Imp Grab: .2

Total: +2.52 CR (or 2.02 for bugbear)

 

[Uriel]

Man, I am totally lost with these threads...and I'm a detail-oriented freak.

I look between this (Evil) thread and the parent and see variations on which UK column, which poin/tCr value etc... ARGH!!!



Could someone let me know what the CRs of these will be?

Drow Cleric 11, normall CR 12, on a Dire Bat144
Drow Wizard 11, normally CR 14 on Dire Bat144
8 Drow Wizards 3, normall CR 4, on Dire Bat16 each (4)
504

Feral Gargoyles, normally CR 525X10=250
Vargoulle, normall CR 24X20=80
Fire Mephits, normally CR 3,9 X5=45
Stirge, normally CR 1/22.5? X46=115
Harpies CR 4 16 Pts eachx6=96

I think that my numbers are way off (especially with the Mounts), but someone let me know, thanks. Re-reading the rules tomorrow...

I'm thinking of adding a Dragon or a Yrthak in there somewhere...

-Uriel

 

[Pyrex]

Since we've dropped LA in favor of CR it's a bit weird.
In the CR's below, the Drow keep their 1 racial HD.

Drow (1.5) + Clr11[no equip](8.8) = 10.3CR -> 106.9 pts
Drow (1.5) + Clr 11[equp](11) = 12.5CR -> 156.25 pts

Dire Bat 3.5 CR -> 12.15 pt x10 = 121.5 pts

We're using the 4th col in UK's doc

Vargouille -> 1.25 CR
Stirge -> 1 CR
Harpy -> 7 CR

Gargoyle (4) + Feral (1.4) = 5.4 CR -> 29.16 pts

Feral
Darkvision: .2 (0 for gargoyle)
Improved Hit Die: .2
Speed Increase +10': .05 (.05 for gargoyle)
+6 Natural Armor: .6 (.2 for a gargoyle)
2 Claws @ d8: .9 (.4 for gargoyle)
Fast Heal 2: .15
Stat Boost: .2
Imp Grab: .2

Total: +2.52 CR (or 1.4 for gargoyle)

 

[Tonguez]

I'm thinking of adding a Dragon or a Yrthak in there somewhere...

-Uriel

I'd go a Yrthak myself. they fit the theme and breathweapons are covered by the Mephits,

We are so gonna win this war! Me dropping a few entangles you guys doing strafe fire (are incorporeal creatures immune to entangle?) and then finish off the survivors with a Storm of Vegeance or Elemtal Fire Storm MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[Pyrex]

Incorporeal creatures are very much immune to Entangle. Just make sure not to tie up my cavalry...

Don't forget the Creeping Dooms, Earthquakes, and Whirlwinds.

 

[Uriel]

Where is the Col's chart, so that I can figure out the points for the other troops?

I saw no '4th column'.

The lower level Wizards will all have wands of fireballs and a few others.
Invisible Fireball shooting Devestaton...

If I have points left, I am going to punch up the level of the Wizard/Cleric team.

 

[Pyrex]

Where is the Col's chart, so that I can figure out the points for the other troops?

Come here and grab v4.zip (it's in the first post).

Open the zipped pdf & scroll half-way or so down to find the revised CR's list.

Each monster has 4 columns of CR's listed. We're using the 4th.

Invisible Fireball shooting Devestaton...

Cool. I've always wanted to call in an airstrike...