D1: Ashin's Commission (El Jefe judging)
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Rystil Arden
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(OOC: B4cchus--I'm not certain Michael came with us. He appears to have different plans than staying with the group. Otherwise, Zaeryl has somethign to say too 
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Patlin
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Rystil Arden said:(OOC: B4cchus--I'm not certain Michael came with us. He appears to have different plans than staying with the group. Otherwise, Zaeryl has somethign to say too
ooc: Yeah, his last post suggested he might leave the group, though it seems to await DM input to decide whether this will be sooner or later. I'm not clear if this is what the player wants or just what the character is likely to do. Be nice to clarify all of that...
OoC: Well, as stated above, Zaeryl led the party directly away from Duvik, which was down the steep canyon that the party had been following ever since it turned off the road and started following the path.ajanders said:
Eventually he exited the canyon, and started crossing the shallow valley that the road ran throught. He then rode up the side of the valley opposite the canyon and crossed the crest of the ridge. Is that a good high point like the one you had in mind, or is Michael riding someplace else?
ajanders
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(OOC:
At this point I only know what Michael will do...the geography I leave up to the DM
Given riding his horse up the side of the canyon is ridiculous, the next high point would be on the far side of the valley.
So yes, Michael is probably still with the party.)
"Why?" Michael says acidly. "You want to kill him some more?"
At this point I only know what Michael will do...the geography I leave up to the DM
Given riding his horse up the side of the canyon is ridiculous, the next high point would be on the far side of the valley.
So yes, Michael is probably still with the party.)
"Why?" Michael says acidly. "You want to kill him some more?"
Rystil Arden
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"Don't take that tone with Hulgyr, you traitorous bastard."
"How dare you--how DARE YOU attack your fellow party members with mind control spells, you despicable villain. Not only was the act oppressive and egocentric, but you put everyone in danger should the soldiers have resisted your magic and most of us did not. What's more you showed utter contempt for the safety and free will of your fellows. Your actions were more egregious than a wizard who blasts his companions with a fireball."
"We had thought that you would show common mortal decency out of respect if not for us than for any of the others who watched your back in your time of need--for Hulgyr or Eternity who saved you when you were attacked by the Shadow--but apparently not. If you are that selfish and callous that the carrot cannot control your arrogant attempts to impose your will on those around you, then know this: The next time you use mind control on any member of this group, we will kill you, as you are no less dangerous at that point than the enemy. Do not mistake the seriousness of your offense."
"Say what you want about us, but Hulgyr is trying to defend innocent lives from the soldiers who are attacking them. You are trying to defend oppressive conquerers who act like yourself and control people unwillingly by attacking your allies. You are the only evil here, and your self-righteous tone has no place."
"How dare you--how DARE YOU attack your fellow party members with mind control spells, you despicable villain. Not only was the act oppressive and egocentric, but you put everyone in danger should the soldiers have resisted your magic and most of us did not. What's more you showed utter contempt for the safety and free will of your fellows. Your actions were more egregious than a wizard who blasts his companions with a fireball."
"We had thought that you would show common mortal decency out of respect if not for us than for any of the others who watched your back in your time of need--for Hulgyr or Eternity who saved you when you were attacked by the Shadow--but apparently not. If you are that selfish and callous that the carrot cannot control your arrogant attempts to impose your will on those around you, then know this: The next time you use mind control on any member of this group, we will kill you, as you are no less dangerous at that point than the enemy. Do not mistake the seriousness of your offense."
"Say what you want about us, but Hulgyr is trying to defend innocent lives from the soldiers who are attacking them. You are trying to defend oppressive conquerers who act like yourself and control people unwillingly by attacking your allies. You are the only evil here, and your self-righteous tone has no place."
ajanders
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"Stick your righteous indignation where the sun doesn't shine, Zaeryl. You're unhappy you didn't get to kill them."
Michael tethers his horse on the far side of the ridgeline, far enough down so his head doesn't show. The horse supports Zaeryl against his cruel and demented rider with an approving snuffle.
"Hulgyr is a full-grown warrior and perfectly capable of calling me to task on his own. He and I will discuss that ourselves when he's ready."
Michael duckwalks back up to the ridgetop, taking care to stay low and not make a giant cleric silhouette. He looks back carefully for horses, riders, dust plumes, or moving branches.
"We have tried to speak to people three times now, once at Fallon, once at Bainlunder Lodge, and once here.
The first time, we lost our tempers and were barred from the city.
The second time, we lost our tempers and were barred from the house.
The third time, I decided we would not lose our tempers for twenty seconds -- no more, no less. I decided we would speak, and not attack them first.
At the end of that twenty seconds, Ironwolf was halfway back to getting his crystal and not only were they not going to attack us, they were going to escort us, fully armed and armored, through their lines, into Duvik, and directly to their commanding officer. We had, in short, won."
Michael shades his eyes and looks again, just in case things have changed.
"One second later, you had your vaunted freedom of mind back. In five seconds, you undid everything I had done and changed them to enemies. Your actions were more egregious than a wizard casting mass-anticharm person spells on the customers at the Red Dragon Inn."
Michael squints against the sun and looks harder.
Please Sela, let them not have had cavalry...
"In ten seconds, you had attacked them, not the other way around -- that made us bandits, and if we aren't murderous bandits, that'll be my doing, not yours. Now we can all be hunted down, summarily tried, and hung.
Do not mistake the seriousness of your offense. Since you are so selfish and callous we can't keep you from making us all criminals, then know this: if we bring you back bound and gagged to stand trial and be hung, we have maybe one chance in ten of convincing them you're a vicious deceptive killer who duped us and only merit a short jail sentence with flogging. Otherwise, if we're caught, we'll all be hung."
Would I even see a lone tracker? That's pretty thick brush...
"You can say what you like, Zaeryl, but saying it doesn't make it so. I used my powers specifically on you because I thought you were going to do something stupid. The fact that we're hiding on a hill with two of your corpses and an army hunting a flame-shooting bandit and his companions behind us proves me right. All I've done here is try to keep us on the right side of the law. All you've done is kill."
(Hopefully Michael has had a few rounds to take 20 on Spot or search checks to see if pursuit is coming?)
If no pursuit is coming, Michael crawls back out of the bush and back down the far side of the ridge to his horse.
"Now, does anyone not Zaeryl have a problem?"
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Michael tethers his horse on the far side of the ridgeline, far enough down so his head doesn't show. The horse supports Zaeryl against his cruel and demented rider with an approving snuffle.
"Hulgyr is a full-grown warrior and perfectly capable of calling me to task on his own. He and I will discuss that ourselves when he's ready."
Michael duckwalks back up to the ridgetop, taking care to stay low and not make a giant cleric silhouette. He looks back carefully for horses, riders, dust plumes, or moving branches.
"We have tried to speak to people three times now, once at Fallon, once at Bainlunder Lodge, and once here.
The first time, we lost our tempers and were barred from the city.
The second time, we lost our tempers and were barred from the house.
The third time, I decided we would not lose our tempers for twenty seconds -- no more, no less. I decided we would speak, and not attack them first.
At the end of that twenty seconds, Ironwolf was halfway back to getting his crystal and not only were they not going to attack us, they were going to escort us, fully armed and armored, through their lines, into Duvik, and directly to their commanding officer. We had, in short, won."
Michael shades his eyes and looks again, just in case things have changed.
"One second later, you had your vaunted freedom of mind back. In five seconds, you undid everything I had done and changed them to enemies. Your actions were more egregious than a wizard casting mass-anticharm person spells on the customers at the Red Dragon Inn."
Michael squints against the sun and looks harder.
Please Sela, let them not have had cavalry...
"In ten seconds, you had attacked them, not the other way around -- that made us bandits, and if we aren't murderous bandits, that'll be my doing, not yours. Now we can all be hunted down, summarily tried, and hung.
Do not mistake the seriousness of your offense. Since you are so selfish and callous we can't keep you from making us all criminals, then know this: if we bring you back bound and gagged to stand trial and be hung, we have maybe one chance in ten of convincing them you're a vicious deceptive killer who duped us and only merit a short jail sentence with flogging. Otherwise, if we're caught, we'll all be hung."
Would I even see a lone tracker? That's pretty thick brush...
"You can say what you like, Zaeryl, but saying it doesn't make it so. I used my powers specifically on you because I thought you were going to do something stupid. The fact that we're hiding on a hill with two of your corpses and an army hunting a flame-shooting bandit and his companions behind us proves me right. All I've done here is try to keep us on the right side of the law. All you've done is kill."
(Hopefully Michael has had a few rounds to take 20 on Spot or search checks to see if pursuit is coming?)
If no pursuit is coming, Michael crawls back out of the bush and back down the far side of the ridge to his horse.
"Now, does anyone not Zaeryl have a problem?"
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Rystil Arden
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"You are either a complete idiot, completely evil, or such an arrogant and deluded jackass that you can't take anyone into consideration except yourself and care nothing for others. We suspect the last with traces of the first."
"The soldiers are our ENEMIES, and you were on the brink of allowing them to take us into custody, solely because you used your magic to pacify the group. We would all be kept in containment by our enemies because of your stupidity, and not by our own choice, but because you TOOK AWAY that choice. That is the essence of evil, of oppression. Killing can be evil sometimes, and sometimes it is a necessity. Taking away someone else's choice and forcing your own? That is always evil. Always."
"At the end of that twenty seconds, Ironwolf had made zero progress towards getting his crystal--absolutely none, and not only were we not going to be able to resist them, they were going to capture us and escort us, fully armed and armoured, into the middle of a camp filled with hundreds of soldiers who wished us ill--a camp we had no chance to escape if we needed to. We had, in short, lost."
"But perhaps you don't agree with our analysis. That is fair. You are entitled to your opinion on the matter. However, the reason you are the most wretched scum we have ever seen is because you do NOT respect the other point of view. If you can't see how the viewpoint that we had lost by being escorted into a camp of enemies was equally valid to your own, then you are either stupid or lying. The fact that you disallowed others to make that choice makes you tyrannous."
"As to our attacking them right away--that's a nice bit of propaganda, but it isn't true. We respected the other people in this group, even you. If we didn't we would have hit them all right away with one spell and ended the fight then and there. We weren't affected by your puny magic, and we could have. But we didn't. We simply asked to be left alone and left, heading away from Duvik. When we were chased, thus proving they wanted to detain us no matter what, we still didn't attack. Ironwolf and Hulgyr attacked before we did, as evidenced by the shouting we heard before the battle broke out. Ask Eternity and Almayce to confirm this. So you can stuff your lies right back where you have suggested for us to place our truths."
"And speaking of evil vicious lies--perhaps the worst thing you have mentioned has come just now. You would turn in one of your fellows to your enemies and lie to them to curry their favour and save your own skin? You truly are a blackguard, Michael Grannion."
(OOC: I don't remember being barred from Fallon--are you thinking of the crazy knights that weren't Fallon at all?)
"The soldiers are our ENEMIES, and you were on the brink of allowing them to take us into custody, solely because you used your magic to pacify the group. We would all be kept in containment by our enemies because of your stupidity, and not by our own choice, but because you TOOK AWAY that choice. That is the essence of evil, of oppression. Killing can be evil sometimes, and sometimes it is a necessity. Taking away someone else's choice and forcing your own? That is always evil. Always."
"At the end of that twenty seconds, Ironwolf had made zero progress towards getting his crystal--absolutely none, and not only were we not going to be able to resist them, they were going to capture us and escort us, fully armed and armoured, into the middle of a camp filled with hundreds of soldiers who wished us ill--a camp we had no chance to escape if we needed to. We had, in short, lost."
"But perhaps you don't agree with our analysis. That is fair. You are entitled to your opinion on the matter. However, the reason you are the most wretched scum we have ever seen is because you do NOT respect the other point of view. If you can't see how the viewpoint that we had lost by being escorted into a camp of enemies was equally valid to your own, then you are either stupid or lying. The fact that you disallowed others to make that choice makes you tyrannous."
"As to our attacking them right away--that's a nice bit of propaganda, but it isn't true. We respected the other people in this group, even you. If we didn't we would have hit them all right away with one spell and ended the fight then and there. We weren't affected by your puny magic, and we could have. But we didn't. We simply asked to be left alone and left, heading away from Duvik. When we were chased, thus proving they wanted to detain us no matter what, we still didn't attack. Ironwolf and Hulgyr attacked before we did, as evidenced by the shouting we heard before the battle broke out. Ask Eternity and Almayce to confirm this. So you can stuff your lies right back where you have suggested for us to place our truths."
"And speaking of evil vicious lies--perhaps the worst thing you have mentioned has come just now. You would turn in one of your fellows to your enemies and lie to them to curry their favour and save your own skin? You truly are a blackguard, Michael Grannion."
(OOC: I don't remember being barred from Fallon--are you thinking of the crazy knights that weren't Fallon at all?)
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