Spoilers Daredevil: Born Again (Spoilers)

[Tonguez]

Does any one remember if Angela Del Toro was in Jessica Jones? (I seem to recall her name coming up)
Just I see that they have a child version of Hectors niece in the courtroom - is it a continuity break?

Who is going to be the next White Tiger?

 

[nevin]

The actor died in December 2023 so it was filmed awhile back. So who knows?

 

[Clint_L]

This series gives me hope for the MCU because it's a properly character-driven story that doesn't feel like it's just there to set up a character for a movie, sequel, or another series. It's properly self-contained, so that references to the wider MCU are in passing rather than feeling like the primary purpose. And the stakes are personal. Hopefully Daredevil doesn't suddenly have to save the multiverse in the final episode.

 

[Ryujin]

This series gives me hope for the MCU because it's a properly character-driven story that doesn't feel like it's just there to set up a character for a movie, sequel, or another series. It's properly self-contained, so that references to the wider MCU are in passing rather than feeling like the primary purpose. And the stakes are personal. Hopefully Daredevil doesn't suddenly have to save the multiverse in the final episode.

It's the sort of small stakes story that I was really hoping for. Potentially universe ending issues become tiresome.

 

[Hussar]

What's wrong with channeling Les Mis? Umm, how is that a bad thing?

And, watched the clip above and I don't agree. Remember, this is post Snap, ok, but this is also post Civil War where masked heroes are supposed to sign the accords. No one is supposed to be above the law and operate without any oversight. Vigilantes in this setting are a bad thing according to the public. I don't see this story as out of date at all.

 

[Tonguez]

And I think this guy is dead on on why in some ways the story falls a little flat.

None of the Avengers wear a mask, even Ironman.

The Sokovia accords required heroes to be registered and work with Government oversight (President Red is Govt Oversight gone overboard). Masked street levell heroes defied registration laws and were labelled illegal Vigilantes.

Edited for past tense, as apparently the Sokovia Accords were overturned due to human (and inhuman) rights violations.

 

[Valetudo]

I thought the accords where overturned?

 

[Clint_L]

Does it make sense that New Yorkers are concerned about masked vigilantes? In isolation, sure. Does it make sense that they aren't making a bigger deal out of, I dunno, a giant arm sticking out of the earth (not that that ever gets mentioned anymore)? No, it doesn't. It also doesn't make sense that the whole "everyone is dead but now they are back five years later" situation is basically treated as a mild inconvenience, or the the discovery that alien cultures are real and vast and varied isn't treated as a big deal, or gods are literally real, and so on and so forth.

But, I mean, that's superhero comics (and now movies) for you. That's why they aren't really science fiction, they are fantasies that are mostly just meant to entertain. If they are going to have meaningful stakes and themes, those either have to be on a personal level, or in particularly ambitious films and comics, by basically working as allegory.

Most superhero films have nonsense plots. A street-level one like this minimizes the nonsense.

 

[Hussar]

I thought the accords where overturned?

I'm honestly not sure.

I know in the new Spider Man animated series, they talk about the Accords, but, that's a different timeline. In any case, even without the Sokovia Accords, the idea of masked vigilantes running around isn't something that the public is generally going to be okay with.

 

[Ondath]

I thought the accords where overturned?

They are, and we find out about this in She Hulk of all places! My wife and I recently re-watched the Daredevil relevant bits of She Hulk after liking Born Again so much and my goodness, it was bad. I'm very happy MCU realised their lighter take on Matt wouldn't work and returned to something that resembles the Netflix version more.