Decisions while unconscious

[Darth Malakh]

yo, hold it brother!

No save when you're out cold? and what about death knell then? it needs an unconcious/dying target that does get a save by the RAW.

oohh, I'd love that
but I don't think it's right

All hail Kossuth

Malakh

 

[ThirdWizard]

If you are unconscious I would rule that you can't make a Will save, because you are not trying to resist.

It has already been shown in this thread that unconcious creatures do get a Will save.

 

[ARandomGod]

It has already been shown in this thread that unconcious creatures do get a Will save.

When a will save is available. But when there is no will save, and instead it says 'willing only', they do not.

OK, this is an old thread, but I'm glad I had it marked and came back to it. I had previously thought that it really was the unconcious are always willing, and thus don't get a will save, I personally prefer this.

Now for potential abuses... first level spell Benign Transposition. Two willing targets switch places. Verbal only, close range. Take a bucket of puppies (from the amuzing great cleave thread), keep them unconcious, and you can always get out of a grapple even at first level!

PoP -> They're now holding a cute little puppy. (If it's a particular half orc from Order of the Stick, you'll not only have escaped, you'll have also completely taken it out of combat!)

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(Click it. You know you cannot resist a good OOtS review!)

 

[Nail]

....CANNOT........RESIST..........

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