Deities & Demigods!

[Darth K'Trava]

Not Faiths & Pantheons. Faiths & Avatars, the vastly superior 2e book (and the companion volumes Powers & Pantheons [covering Faerûnean demigods plus the Mulhorandi/Untheric and Chultean pantheons] and Demihuman Deities [covering the elf, dwarf, drow, halfling and gnome pantheons]).

I was mainly going with the more accessible book for most people. It's harder to get the 2e books than the 3e one. I've got the 2e books and found them to be more detailed. THose they do need to update and put into a HUGE volume, with alot more info than F&P can ever think of achieving!

 

[Darth K'Trava]

See, I don't see them as a waste of space or time. I've been running games for 16 years, and the only time I've ever need stats for a god was in a Rifts game where one of the PCs was a Babylonian demigod.
But I like to have them. I have (and have had for a long time) an idea for a Greyhawk campaignt that will involve combat with one or more gods (based in some part on the Saberhagen books about the swords). It's nice to have the stats available. I'd much rather have someone else do the work and then tweak it to my needs than do all the work myself.

I don't have a problem with the stats. But the book needs more fluff to go along with them.

 

[Sundragon2012]

Want a good deity book?

Check out Green Ronin's Book of the Righteous. Its an example of a book of deities where running a campaign with the gods as plot devices to be worshipped by characters and and not as super-monsters with tons of stats that nearly no one is ever going to use. Plus you get full details on churches, PrCs for the churches, holy warrior classes, a distinct mythology and everything you DO NOT GET from the Deities and Demigods and the Powers and Pantheons books.

The 2e forgotten realms books are excellent as well though I forget their names at the moment. These books should be used in conjunction with any the FR Powers and Pantheons because there is so much richer detail there.


Chris

 

[shaylon]

I've never bought it mostly because I don't DM and really don't have a need.

Now, The Gods of Tellus, if it ever comes out, is at the top of my list!

-Shay

 

[Voadam]

I am mostly just shocked by how angry some people are about the book. Some people act like it was some kind of personal betrayal, and I don't get that, since I can't figure out what they were expecting. It's Deities and Demigods. I figured right off the bat that it would be like the first Deities and Demigods and have stats for the Gods. I never understood the hatred - it's not like they put out a book called Churches and Faiths - A Handbook for Clerical Characters and then filled that with deific stats.

It was a huge step back in a series that had been progressing in quality over the editions. 1e had just stats and neat pictures with an MM style entry. 2e Legends and Lore added specialty classes for every god and some info on the gods themselves outside of the monster style entries that were there in 1e. The later 2e FR trilogy of god books pressented them with stats, classess, church info and in-depth info on the god and some neat stuff about their history and actions as well as lots of little tidbits on related stuff for them. 3e then went back to basically 1e entries of god stats and a paragraph of descriptive text. It was very disapointing. Although many of the art pictures are great.