Delta Green D20, its alive!

[Stormborn]

Is this the new edition of Delta Green on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/18...436?v=glance&n=283155&_encoding=UTF8&v=glance

*babbles madly*

Nope, I think thats the old one.

 

[Ranger REG]

Well, CoC d20 is not a big leap from d20 Modern-- in fact, John Tynes is one of the people credited in the copyright for the Modern SRD because CoC d20 was one of the sources on which modern was based.

If you have d20 Modern and Unearthed Arcana for insanity rules (or Alea Publishing Group's product reprinting those OGC madness rules), you'll be fine. The only other thing you could possibly need is some extra tentacled/squamous/cyclopean horrors-- and there might be some of those in some pre-existing d20 monster books. Like, say, the Monster Manual.

Well, I would welcome any fine-tuning adjustment material on how to use DG with d20 Modern.

 

[EditorBFG]

Well, I would welcome any fine-tuning adjustment material on how to use DG with d20 Modern.

Well, obviously I don't have DG d20 yet, but from Call of Cthulhu, the main things that could throw you are the spells, NPCs and monsters.

Call of Cthulhu d20 uses a completely different set of spells, but an enterprising GM ought to be able to just replace the CoC spells with regular d20 spells based on the CR of the creature (obviously, you don't give the CR: 5 monster limited wish, etc.) and the name of the spell (Summon (insert favorite Lovecraftian thing here) could be replaced with an appropriate level summon monster spell, Fist of Yog-Sothoth could be an appropriate Bigby spell, etc.) and be able to maintain game balance with the d20 spells stats while describing spell effects in a more alien way. In other words, if the evil cultist summons a fiendish badger, use the fiendish badger stats but describe the summoned monster as a tentacled, squamous thing.

As for NPCs, the thing is Call of Cthulhu has no classes-- or, more properly, only one class, which is basically a Smart Hero-- so an NPC description from Call of Cthulhu will vary somewhat. The good news is, there are literally no class abilities or talents, just skills, base attack bonus, defense, etc. You can read a CoC d20 stat block no problem and not encounter any surprises, just don't bother looking for a character class.

EDIT: I should mention that NPC stat-blocks might say "Offense Option" or "Defense Option," which doesn't really mean anything for you if you're using d20 Modern. Basically, everyone in CoC is a Smart Hero, but you choose whether to be a Smart Hero with a better base attack (Offense Option) or better saves and defense (Defense Option).

Monsters should also have familiar stat blocks, and for the most part their special abilities are derived from Monster Manual creatures. A handful of monsters from CoC might have class abilities that are unfamiliar, and that's the only real place where you have to wing it. Also, prior to CoC d20, there were some online conversions of Lovecraft stories (uber-Conan scholar Vincent Darlage had a bunch of stats on his site) so you can probably find use online sources to sub sme stuff for Deep Ones, Mi-go and the like.

So, yeah, there might be a bit of extra work to use Delta Green with d20 Modern, but as long as you have some sanity rules it's all relatively minor, and certainly shouldn't keep anyone from purchasing the (long-awaited) d20 version of one of the most universally praised role-playing sourcebooks ever published. It's CIA/Special Forces types against Cthulhu-stuff-- it's a simple concept that would've been hard to screw up. But Pagan Publishing not only didn't screw it up, but fully fleshed it out and re-imagined Lovecraft in such a way as to create something both brilliant and utterly new.

 

[Garnfellow]

Nope, I think thats the old one.

But I thought that old one was long out of print. These look to be new, not used copies

 

[ssampier]

*wakes up*

Eh?!

Been waitin' five years, where's my Delta Green d20? :\

 

[Stormborn]

But I thought that old one was long out of print. These look to be new, not used copies

Yes, its long out of print, and yes Amazon will tell you they can get it in 4-6 weeks and charge you extra money for it. And then in about 2 months they will send you an e-mail that says its no longer availble. Sorry, but the trade dress on the one in the link is definetly the old one. Now, occasionally you can find some of the supplements for it, but the core book is hard to find.

Edit: Scroll down to the Product Details section to where it says: "Publisher: Armitage House (February 1, 1997)" if you still have doubts. Sorry. Its not the new book.

 

[Garnfellow]

Yes, its long out of print, and yes Amazon will tell you they can get it in 4-6 weeks and charge you extra money for it. And then in about 2 months they will send you an e-mail that says its no longer availble.

Ah, that makes sense. (Sounds like you speak from personal experience?)

I had toyed with the idea of taking a run at this, in the off chance Amazon had picked up a lost cache. Sounds like that would be a waste of time.

 

[Committed Hero]

Call of Cthulhu d20 uses a completely different set of spells, but an enterprising GM ought to be able to just replace the CoC spells with regular d20 spells based on the CR of the creature (obviously, you don't give the CR: 5 monster limited wish, etc.) and the name of the spell (Summon (insert favorite Lovecraftian thing here) could be replaced with an appropriate level summon monster spell, Fist of Yog-Sothoth could be an appropriate Bigby spell, etc.).

Or use the conversion chart on page 290 of the CoC d20 rulebook.

 

[jaerdaph]

And again still waiting on November 18th...

Not that I'm surprised.

Anyone hear anything new? Is this still "relatively" still on schedule or has the release date changed again? I couldn't find anything on Pagan's web site.

If you can't tell, I've been looking forward to this for a long time now.

 

[Kanegrundar]

And again still waiting on November 18th...

Not that I'm surprised.

Anyone hear anything new? Is this still "relatively" still on schedule or has the release date changed again? I couldn't find anything on Pagan's web site.

If you can't tell, I've been looking forward to this for a long time now.

<sniff, sniff> Is that the smell of the book form of vaporware? I believe it likely is.