Design & Development: Halflings [merged]

Mortellan said:
I'm a bit confused with this statement. For instance what archetypal role do humans play in fantasy?

Humans are the young race, the ambitious ones, the ones who can thrive everywhere.

Elves are the old ones, the forest dwellers.

Dwarves are the souls of the mountains made flesh, the makers.

These are archetypes that are present in much fantasy literature and many myths.

Halflings do not have that kind of history--that is, they don't if we remove the influences of Tolkien.
 

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Halflings do not have that kind of history--that is, they don't if we remove the influences of Tolkien.

But we can make new stuff.

kenders, as much as they are disliked, are pretty much an example of some solid (if disliked) stick.
 

Anyone who wants to play an old-fashioned halfling for an old-fashioned D&D experience at my table is welcome. You'll receive the "regular person" stat array and one-tenth the experience of the other characters, so you can have tons of fun being a better role-player and pretending to serve tea and scones with Barliman Butterbur while the rest of the party is out punching dragons in half.

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It's also not true that halflings don't have an established niche outside of Tolkien; they've slowly, almost unconsciously, been taking over the "small, mischievous troublemaker" archetype. The problem, though, is that a lot of people hate this archetype, since (like "regular folks"), "little scamp" characters often work better in a scripted story than in a game. Halflings seem to be stuck between two problematic fantasy clichés.
 

Kenders. Sigh.

It's true that kenders seem to be the next step in the evolution of halflings. Gods help us all.

I'm curious, though. Outside of Dragonlance, where have halflings begun to take over the role of "small mischevious troublemaker"? Are halflings really that prevalent in fantasy literature?
 

Wolfspider said:
Are halflings really that prevalent in fantasy literature?
I ask this in all seriousness and without snark:

When was the last time D&D concerned itself with emulating fantasy literature?
 

Wolfspider said:
Kenders. Sigh.

It's true that kenders seem to be the next step in the evolution of halflings. Gods help us all.

I'm curious, though. Outside of Dragonlance, where have halflings begun to take over the role of "small mischevious troublemaker"? Are halflings really that prevalent in fantasy literature?

Make the kenders more mature and calm, and removes the kleptomania, and you have a VERY worthy fantasy race.


Well, Willow was about an Halfling-like race.
 


The Ubbergeek said:
Make the kenders more mature and calm, and removes the kleptomania, and you have a VERY worthy fantasy race.


Well, Willow was about an Halfling-like race.

And the peck from Willow are basically hobbits, which are verboten.
 

Wormwood said:
I ask this in all seriousness and without snark:

When was the last time D&D concerned itself with emulating fantasy literature?

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