SteveC
Doing the best imitation of myself
Paraxis,Paraxis said:Let me just quote the PHB:
Ok so lets break this down a bit.
Good = respect for life and concern for sentient life, if you and your groups have been playing them as cold blooded goblin slayers who kill women and children for being green and short well thats you but it's not Good.
Evil = killing for sport or out of duty to some evil diety or master, this is exactly the flavor of the warlock that we have been presented with.
The other quotes are there to remind everyone that this is supposed to be a game about fighting against the Darkness and Evil....I thought 4E was going further along that path with the whole "Points of Light" thing...players are light against the darkness....but what I'm worried about is it seems that Tiefling and Warlock both scream they are the darkness. While taking away the only becon of light left the paladin and making him just another tool for any one and giving the darkness a class all to itself.
Thanks for posting the notes from the PHB. When I am posting I usually only have access to the SRD, which does not include the "most characters are good or neutral" part.
I may differ a bit from the posters on both sides of this issue (but that's hardly surprising) as I think there's nothing wrong whatsoever with the Warlock and the class' flavor. I get the whole "fighting darkness both within and without" thing, really I do. My chief concern is the fact that the Warlock is going to be one of the "big 8" of the new series, where I think the class has a lot less appeal than, say, the Mageblade (or whatever they officially are calling it).
I think this is going to be a class that is underused in a lot of campaigns, and it's also going to possibly attract some negative connotations to the game that have been absent for a long time.
On a lighter note, after watching Metalapocalypse this weekend, I think we really need a revamped bard in the core rules. Fourth Edition needs to make bards METAL!...as Nathan Explosion would say. That would really be far more interesting than a class that makes dark pacts in my mind!
If you have no idea what I'm talking about...take a look here .
--Steve