Details & Review of the Matrix Boxed Set

[Welverin]

The final dual between Anakin and Ob-wan should take 10-15 minutes just by itself.

And will kick butt, judging by the footage on the bonus disc in the boxed set.

 

[John Crichton]

And will kick butt, judging by the footage on the bonus disc in the boxed set.

I get all tingley just thinking about it.

 

[LoneWolf23]

I have to come on board as someone who was more pleased than disappointed by Reloaded and Revolutions. But then I’m a nihilist and everything ending in blood and tears after many sacrifices that turn out to be largely pointless makes me happy.

I liked that Smith lost by winning and Neo won by losing. However, I did think the final symbolism of Neo as a messiah was over done. But this did not spoil the movie for me.

I, personally, really loved the sequals myself, mostly because I wasn't going in with assumptions as to how things were going to be; I didn't expect a big twist at the end, because I realized that it's not what the Wachowski Brothers were trying to do.

I've read some mythology stuff before, and I realized that's what the Wachowski Brothers were trying to write: an epic sci-fi style mythology with CGI and Wuxia. ...I didn't expect a twist ending, because similarly, I don't expect a twist ending when I read something like the arthurian myth stories. I expect Drama, Action, and even some Humor, but not a twist ending.

Methinks Ron Sterling's spoiled you all...

 

[Goodsport]

Methinks Ron Sterling's spoiled you all...

As well as Rod Serling.


-G

 

[John Crichton]

I, personally, really loved the sequals myself, mostly because I wasn't going in with assumptions as to how things were going to be; I didn't expect a big twist at the end, because I realized that it's not what the Wachowski Brothers were trying to do.

I've read some mythology stuff before, and I realized that's what the Wachowski Brothers were trying to write: an epic sci-fi style mythology with CGI and Wuxia. ...I didn't expect a twist ending, because similarly, I don't expect a twist ending when I read something like the arthurian myth stories. I expect Drama, Action, and even some Humor, but not a twist ending.

Methinks Ron Sterling's spoiled you all...

I didn't care about the twist ending or the ending at all. I just wanted to be entertained. The twist was nice in the first movie and made the rest of the film all that much better. However, the ending was flawed and it leaked into the rest of the films.

The only cool thing about and of the final 4-5 hours of the Matrix trilogy was the GIANT FRIKKIN ROBOTS.

And again, I'll post more thoughts about the trilogy after I watch all 3 movies in a row. It's been over a year and I think I can get some fresh perspective. Let's put it this way: I can't possibly be less entertained on the second go-around.

 

[Welverin]

I get all tingley just thinking about it.

More of a stupid grin for me.

I didn't care about the twist ending or the ending at all.

Twist ending, what twist ending? The twist was at the beginning, the rest of the movie explore it, to one degree or another. [/QUOTE]Mind you this is mostly directed at LoneWolf23.

The only cool thing about and of the final 4-5 hours of the Matrix trilogy was the GIANT FRIKKIN ROBOTS.

Funny, but that's probably the part I like the least, after the Zion dance seen that is.

And again, I'll post more thoughts about the trilogy after I watch all 3 movies in a row.

Have you picked up the boxed set yet?

I've finally finished all of the commentaries and the two documentaries on the Roots of the Matrix disc. I found all of them fairly interesting and it was particularly interesting to find out what parts of the movies the critics did/n't like (notably the sequels, they're dislikes are rather similar to mine).

 

[JoeGKushner]

My mother never saw the second or third movie.

We watched 'em almost back to back.

During the fight scene with Zion being attacked, she left the room for like 10-15 minutes because she was bored. "Isn't that over yet?"

She also wanted to know what happened to the vampires, the marovince, and all the other elements that the second movie brought on and why in the world was the third movie so stupid.

I enjoyed the second movie more than I remembered but that third one still has got to go.

 

[Merlion]

I have to weigh in here as another of the few people that thoroughly loves all 3 matrix movies. I really do not know why so many people so dlislike the last two.
I'm even more shocked at the number of people in a community like this that seem to think that a movie cannot or should not try to have philosophical content. Stories are stories. Books, movies, games, whatever, and they can all be equally deep and meaningful.


I too did not expect a "twist" ending from this particular story. I didnt even really see the end of the first one as a twist...simply a part of the story that wasnt blatantly advertised in the previews and such, unlike many movies that reveal the whole of the story within the previews.

If I expected anything, it was a great deal of symbolism, and overall themes of individuality, introspection, and free will, which is exactly what I got. Everyone is of course entitled to their taste and opnion but i really cant understand how someone could really like the first one, and really dislike the other two...but thats just me.

I already own all three, and I sadly dont have much extra money to spend so I wont be getting the boxed set, but i really should watch all three in one day at some point..

 

[RangerWickett]

I certainly don't mind symbolism or philosophy. I liked that aspect of The Matrix. But movies 2 and 3 just were not well-told stories. There were moments of coolness, and I did really enjoy the Merovingian sequence in movie 2, and the fight with Bane in movie 3, but the rest wasn't good.

In a movie trilogy you can get away with introducing 2 new good guy characters in movie 2 that we'll care about, and maybe 1 character in movie 3. But in The Matrix Reloaded we get Niobe, Ghost, Link, Zee, Kid, and the guy in charge of Zion's defenses. You don't have enough time to make the audience care about all of them. It would have been better, I feel to play up Niobe and Ghost in movie 2, and not even really bothered making a big deal of the fight at Zion in movie 3.

I didn't watch The Matrix trilogy because I thought the real world was cool. I watched them because the Matrix itself was cool. A few scenes in the real world is fine for framing, and to show that they're fighting for something real, but in a trilogy named after the Matrix, you probably ought to have the primary conflict in the Matrix.

 

[Merlion]

In a movie trilogy you can get away with introducing 2 new good guy characters in movie 2 that we'll care about, and maybe 1 character in movie 3. But in The Matrix Reloaded we get Niobe, Ghost, Link, Zee, Kid, and the guy in charge of Zion's defenses. You don't have enough time to make the audience care about all of them. It would have been better, I feel to play up Niobe and Ghost in movie 2, and not even really bothered making a big deal of the fight at Zion in movie 3.

I think this is a big area where I am different from a lot of people. This is similiar to the complaints many have with the Lord of the Rings.

Personally, I dont feel its bad if I dont connect all that much with every character that gets any kind of screen time. To me Locke was mainly an antagonistic character anyway. of course on the other side of that, I also tend to get to care about characters pretty quickly anyway.


I think I'm just fonder of big massive epics with enourmous casts of characters than most people...which is fine.

I guess to me the 2nd and 3rd movies seemed like perfectly sensible continuations of the 1st one, and many people didnt.


Mainly I'm surprised that so many ENworlders seem to see depth and movies as mutually exclusive....I just tend to see stories as stories...although admitedly depth of story is usualy harder through more visual mediums.