DI and other Supplements are not "core" Core

It's no different than the "splatbooks" from the current and previous versions of the game, except for the media and perhaps the cost. If you listened to and accomodated your players in prior editions by purchasing splatbooks or subscribing to Dragon for it's "official rules," then I guess you will eventually be subscribing to DI.

If you listened to and accomodated your players by picking and choosing what to purchase and what to skip, then you can do the same thing in 4e. Setting boundaries and/or limits, doesn't make you a bad DM. :)
 

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hexgrid said:
It's just the same word with a different definition.

Yes, and if by "blue" I mean "the color of a rose", it's just the same word with a different definition. :)

In the end, when trying to communicate with customers, definitions and terminology can matter a great deal. In the long run, it'll all even out, of course. But WotC seems to be in the business of starting to set expectations. I think that's a good thing, but then they need to be clear in communication. Given that the term 'core' was something they originally coined, it shouldn't be too difficult for them.
 

Umbran said:
Yes, and if by "blue" I mean "the color of a rose", it's just the same word with a different definition. :)
Well, there are blue roses. :p

I do agree that they need to be careful in defining the different terms. If "core" is going to now mean anything non-setting specific, that is fine, but they should then have some other term for the three main rule books. My suggestion would be the PHB< DMG and MM1 contain the "base rules" that everyone needs to play the game.

On a side note, people mention "official" rules. Did WotC ever publish anything for 3.X that wasn't official? Seems to me if they published it, it was official.
 

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This is what bothers me about this potentially. Part of why there "won't be a 4.5" is because they can "fix" things with the D&D Insider site.

Now, if you don't want to subscribe, fine. But lets say there are some 3.5-eseque changes that have been added to the site. They aren't really "errata" because they are full out rules changes.

You don't subscribe, but then you pick up the latest hardcover, and this race/class/ability now works differently, and the book goes by the new standard without explaining the change, because its covered on D&D Insider.
 

KnightErrantJR said:
This is what bothers me about this potentially. Part of why there "won't be a 4.5" is because they can "fix" things with the D&D Insider site.

Now, if you don't want to subscribe, fine. But lets say there are some 3.5-eseque changes that have been added to the site. They aren't really "errata" because they are full out rules changes.

You don't subscribe, but then you pick up the latest hardcover, and this race/class/ability now works differently, and the book goes by the new standard without explaining the change, because its covered on D&D Insider.
I really wonder how much this will happen. If they do this, even subscribers will have the problem of their hardcopy books will not be correct, and they will have to look things up on the D&D Insider to get the most current information.

I can't say what WotC will or will not do, but my gut tells me they won't make rules changes like this on the website and that's it. If they do try this, I think the torches and pitchforks might be justified. At a minimum I would hope they would publish a periodic supplement book and/or revise the SRD with any rules changes and errata posted to D&DI.
 


Varianor Abroad said:
They can buy me the book. Now if the DI has "buy the DM an updrade options", that might be a little different. :D

So, because it's a website, they can't slip you a $5 bill and you just download whatever thing on your DM account?

I fail to see the problem with this situation, as it is entirely predicated (it seems) on you being a pushover, rather than Wizards forcing you to need a subscription for required material.
 

Mourn said:
So, because it's a website, they can't slip you a $5 bill and you just download whatever thing on your DM account?

I fail to see the problem with this situation, as it is entirely predicated (it seems) on you being a pushover, rather than Wizards forcing you to need a subscription for required material.

They got somebody's $5 in your example, right? In this case, someone who already owned the material.
 

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