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5E Dim Light question

dnd4vr

The Smurfiest Wizard Ever!
A player asked me this, and I haven't thought of an answer so I decided to throw it out there to see if anyone knows of something I am missing:

Is there a spell, magic items, or feature of some sort that will create dim light without bright light, and does NOT require concentration?

Because of the last part, Dancing Lights and Faerie Fire are out, and I have yet to find anything else that works as an answer.

Anybody?
 

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Fenris-77

Small God of the Dozens
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Nothing springs to mind. We're talking about creating dim light in darkness right? Not lowering bright light to dim?

If it's the first, then the easy answer is to just say there's a toggle on your light cantrip. You want dim? You get dim. I don't think you're breaking anything there.
 

dnd4vr

The Smurfiest Wizard Ever!
Well, I just thought of hooded lanterns. You can lower it to shed only dim light in a 5' radius.

FWIW I am looking for RAW, by-the-book type answers, so though it's a good idea to allow light to have a dimmer mode or something, it would be a house-rule.

Ultimately, something like Dancing Lights, which is only dim light, but without the need for concentration.
 

Use a hooded lantern or a caster could create a spell say as a thought Lvl 1, Dim lights. Creates Dim light or reduces ambient non-magical light to dim light in a 20' radius for up to one hour without concentration.
 





dnd4vr

The Smurfiest Wizard Ever!
I think the only thing is the hooded lantern with a light source (oil, light cantrip, or a continual flame). That should work fine. Nothing else I know of and harvesting cranium rat brains probably isn't what the PC is looking to do. ;)
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
That's a good one, too. I've never looked at those tables really so thanks for pointing it out.
If you really want to be "by the book" then that only works while the item is in moonlight. Though, if you include Xanathar's... the characters can search out the recipe for a dimly-glowing item, and craft it. Surely, if that's it's only power, it is a common item in terms of expenses and time....
 



dnd4vr

The Smurfiest Wizard Ever!
If you really want to be "by the book" then that only works while the item is in moonlight. Though, if you include Xanathar's... the characters can search out the recipe for a dimly-glowing item, and craft it. Surely, if that's it's only power, it is a common item in terms of expenses and time....
Oh, you're right. I misread the description! I thought it read "and glows with a pale radiance of moonlight", not "in moonlight".

Yeah, unfortunately it makes that useless...

A custom magic item would be cheap and simple, etc. since that would be its only power--- but the benefits, oh, the benefits to that character! shudder
Fortunately, the simple hooded lantern (with whatever light source) solves the problem. shudder again
 

If you really want to be "by the book" then that only works while the item is in moonlight. Though, if you include Xanathar's... the characters can search out the recipe for a dimly-glowing item, and craft it. Surely, if that's it's only power, it is a common item in terms of expenses and time....
Which reminded me that one option is the moonbeam spell.
 



dnd4vr

The Smurfiest Wizard Ever!
Wait a second...I thought @dnd4vr was quitting 5e?

The absence of a dim light cantrip is yet another example of WotC not doing their job. Amirite?
I am, but not until we finish our current campaigns (my guess would be end of summer or so?).

And yes, you are right, it is another example. :p LOL.

The bigger failing is all the concentration spells that really shouldn't be...
 


The absence of a dim light cantrip is yet another example of WotC not doing their job. Amirite?
I know this isn't RAW but I don't like the 5E cantrips that much, theyre too powerful. I don't see why a spell caster couldn't cast a simple cantrip to create a low-radiused light spell for a short period of time without needing to concentrate on it. To me that's the very definition of a cantrip, at least in spirit. If a mage cant even do that without breaking a sweat and getting winded they should just pack it in and go home.
 

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