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Queen_Dopplepopolis
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Getting people out of the city is not going to be easy... however, it is, at this point, going to be a task of speed and lung-power.
We need to quickly and loudly direct people as to where to go and how to get there in an orderly fashion...
I realize that this is totally unlikely... but-- it needs to be the end goal...
Those are my current thoughts... I'll be back with more.
We need to quickly and loudly direct people as to where to go and how to get there in an orderly fashion...
I realize that this is totally unlikely... but-- it needs to be the end goal...
Those are my current thoughts... I'll be back with more.
Queen_Dopplepopolis
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Also... I just want everyone to know that I love Sam Waterston... and his eyebrows.
AIM-54
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Strategery...
I think we need to go through this very carefully to assemble a plan of action, picking out options and goals and then let the chips fall where they may. As a resident expert on all things military (unless someone cares to challenge me, which might be very good in terms of coming up with the best plans etc), here is my take:
Our first goal, being the moral crusaders that we are is naturally to get as many people out as safely as possible. This is our starting point and our end goal.
Second, how? We have two options, so far as I can see, run through the town rallying the people to leave as quickly as possible, staying in the city helping to get as many people out as fast as we can and then leaving with them when it gets too dangerous. The second option is to rally what soldiers we can to fight delaying actions (this is not a distraction), helping those people we can, but mainly trying to buy time for them to escape. Because of the urban territory, this works to our advantage, especially if we can assemble other teams of city guard or soldiers etc to do the same thing. The key is to get small teams, probably around ten to disrupt enemy operations as much as possible. Archers and ranged weaponry are key for this, as they allow for firing from elevated positions or distance, keeping the enemy at distance hopefully until they're either whittled down enough that the melee fighters can finish them off or an escape can be arranged or some other option (traps etc). With numerous teams throughout the city engaged in this, we give the innocents the best shot at escape (where to is another matter). This is the best option in my opinion.
This leads to the next option, do we fight as long as possible and then escape with the rest to leave Oceanus to its fate? Or with the surviving defenders do we go underground and commence a guerrilla war against the undead horde, run either from inside the city (from the sewers etc) or from some nearby sanctuary (probably needs to be mobile to prevent discovery and destruction). If we select the first option, it will probably still require a fighting retreat and I have no idea where we'd be headed. At this point it is the most uncertain choice. The second option allows us to continue inflicting damage on the enemy, distracting them from their ultimate goal (whatever that is), perhaps delay them further giving the civilians more time to escape (though the enemies numbers may preclude that to some extent). If nothing else, we can work on whittling them down a bit, and giving other inhabitants of the island/continent we're on a better chance against those forces we can't tie down.
In the final analysis, we can't win this one right out. This may not be the only invasion force either. We must look at our capabilities, what we can hope to achieve and what our goals are. Given that we have two rangers and we all bring valuable skills in either combat, deception, stealth or all three, I'd say we're all set should we choose the guerrilla option. But we must understand that realistically, we will not be able to save everyone, nor will we be able to defeat this force on our own in a stand up fight, even with whatever forces we can muster from within the city. Indeed, one of the goals of a guerrilla campaign would certainly be to send word with the evacuees to send any available forces to help out with our battle (I'm assuming they are heading somewhere with some sort of military force that can be useful to us).
Okay, I got a little excited, but I think this is a good starting point.
Jeremiah
I think we need to go through this very carefully to assemble a plan of action, picking out options and goals and then let the chips fall where they may. As a resident expert on all things military (unless someone cares to challenge me, which might be very good in terms of coming up with the best plans etc), here is my take:
Our first goal, being the moral crusaders that we are is naturally to get as many people out as safely as possible. This is our starting point and our end goal.
Second, how? We have two options, so far as I can see, run through the town rallying the people to leave as quickly as possible, staying in the city helping to get as many people out as fast as we can and then leaving with them when it gets too dangerous. The second option is to rally what soldiers we can to fight delaying actions (this is not a distraction), helping those people we can, but mainly trying to buy time for them to escape. Because of the urban territory, this works to our advantage, especially if we can assemble other teams of city guard or soldiers etc to do the same thing. The key is to get small teams, probably around ten to disrupt enemy operations as much as possible. Archers and ranged weaponry are key for this, as they allow for firing from elevated positions or distance, keeping the enemy at distance hopefully until they're either whittled down enough that the melee fighters can finish them off or an escape can be arranged or some other option (traps etc). With numerous teams throughout the city engaged in this, we give the innocents the best shot at escape (where to is another matter). This is the best option in my opinion.
This leads to the next option, do we fight as long as possible and then escape with the rest to leave Oceanus to its fate? Or with the surviving defenders do we go underground and commence a guerrilla war against the undead horde, run either from inside the city (from the sewers etc) or from some nearby sanctuary (probably needs to be mobile to prevent discovery and destruction). If we select the first option, it will probably still require a fighting retreat and I have no idea where we'd be headed. At this point it is the most uncertain choice. The second option allows us to continue inflicting damage on the enemy, distracting them from their ultimate goal (whatever that is), perhaps delay them further giving the civilians more time to escape (though the enemies numbers may preclude that to some extent). If nothing else, we can work on whittling them down a bit, and giving other inhabitants of the island/continent we're on a better chance against those forces we can't tie down.
In the final analysis, we can't win this one right out. This may not be the only invasion force either. We must look at our capabilities, what we can hope to achieve and what our goals are. Given that we have two rangers and we all bring valuable skills in either combat, deception, stealth or all three, I'd say we're all set should we choose the guerrilla option. But we must understand that realistically, we will not be able to save everyone, nor will we be able to defeat this force on our own in a stand up fight, even with whatever forces we can muster from within the city. Indeed, one of the goals of a guerrilla campaign would certainly be to send word with the evacuees to send any available forces to help out with our battle (I'm assuming they are heading somewhere with some sort of military force that can be useful to us).
Okay, I got a little excited, but I think this is a good starting point.
Jeremiah
The_Universe
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Dear God...is that...a plan...!?
*clap clap clap*
*clap clap clap*
The_Universe
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Okay, based on what Jeremiah has said, does anybody have any questions for me?
Does anybody have any OTHER questions for me...?
I MISS THE FLOOD OF QUESTIONS!
Also, any word on whether we'll have Kat and Greg this weekend?
Does anybody have any OTHER questions for me...?
I MISS THE FLOOD OF QUESTIONS!
Also, any word on whether we'll have Kat and Greg this weekend?
Queen_Dopplepopolis
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Jeremiah is correct. Our goal cannot be to save everyone (as much as Justice would like to)...
So, we must spread the message as quickly as possible, fighting what we can along the way.
I think that part of this option is to rally as many people with the skillz (that's right, with a z) to fight off the demon masses and allow those that cannot fight to make their way to safety.
But, there does come a certain point when we will have to turn and run... and that is, I think, the most pressing issue:
At what point is it just (and merciful) to run??
So, we must spread the message as quickly as possible, fighting what we can along the way.
I think that part of this option is to rally as many people with the skillz (that's right, with a z) to fight off the demon masses and allow those that cannot fight to make their way to safety.
But, there does come a certain point when we will have to turn and run... and that is, I think, the most pressing issue:
At what point is it just (and merciful) to run??
Queen_Dopplepopolis
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Hey guys-- hoping that you read this soon... but, Jeremiah, I just got the "Hi" virus from you and several email worms from Kennon... so... Everyone be on the lookout when opening email!
AIM-54
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Queen_Dopplepopolis said:
Before we can decide that, we have to make a decision on whether we're going to go with the people fleeing the city, wherever that may be or whether we're planning to conduct some sort of resistance from the vicinity, or from the sewers of the city.
Kennon, what is the terrain like around the city? Is there some sort of significan forest or some such from which such a resistance could be run or are we going to have to wait and find someone to talk to about this? That kind of becomes a key issue in our decision making.
As I've envisioned it thus far, we fight as long as possible only leaving the city once it's clearly under the control of the horde or we can no longer hold our final sector. At that point we take off for the forest or after the fleeing civilians, for which we will likely serve as some sort of rear guard as I have a feeling with the enemy's numbers they won't have to worry too much about sending a significant pursuit force after us. If we're going with the civvies, we can probably hold a little bit longer before needing to retreat. If we're headed to the forest, we may want to withdraw somewhat sooner so as to give us a better chance to elude pursuit and consolidate in our first of what would be many hideouts. Depending on what kind of resistance force we pick up, we may also want to consider simply splitting off into different independently operating cells to aid evasion. We could, of course, coordinate on some operations etc.
So, I think I've outlined the options as I see them pretty well. More feedback would be good so we can come up with an idea of which way we want to go on this, as I'm sure Kennon would like to have a clue of where we're going as the implications for either option are not insignificant.
Jeremiah aka Sun Tzu
Queen_Dopplepopolis
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I think that we need to follow the citizens for a short while... but, we do have to remember that we have a schedule and people that we need to meet up with in the near future...
So, we need to figure out where we're going to tell these people to go, get them there, and get out of there as quickly as possible...
Also, I'm now getting virus-filled emails from Greg's account... as is Kennon.
So, run your virus scans everyone!
So, we need to figure out where we're going to tell these people to go, get them there, and get out of there as quickly as possible...
Also, I'm now getting virus-filled emails from Greg's account... as is Kennon.
So, run your virus scans everyone!
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